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Question by noname
Submitted on 11/22/2003
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can i use satellite receiver without dish ?
or use indoor small antenna ?
what is smallest size of antenna for satellite tv ?



Answer by jackscalia
Submitted on 12/23/2003
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I like to know if I can use satellite receiver without dish or how bout a small antenna?

I live in Toronto,Ontario Canada
Have a hard time to find since I'm not allow to put it outside the window or the roof

Thank you

 

Answer by alex
Submitted on 3/13/2004
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Me too looking for indoor satellite antenna .I found on net for euoropean indoor antennas but i am not sure if they would work here.
Please help me if you know anything about dishnetwork and indoor antenna. thanks.

 

Answer by Chuck
Submitted on 4/25/2004
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For those of you who are inquiring about indoor units because your landlord doesn't allow you to put up a unit - you may be glad to see this.

I came across this while looking for the same thing you were - an indoor dish:

Q:      "If I live in an apartment or condo can I still get a dish?"
A:    In most cases, yes, if you have a balcony. The law requires that your landlord must give you permission. For more IMPORTANT information please CLICK HERE. FCC rules permit residents of rental property to install a satellite dish, but only in certain areas. Generally, FCC rules permit renters to install a dish only in areas that are subject to the renter's exclusive use and control. Generally, this means an area that you may use, but that is not available for the general use of all tenants. Such an area may include a balcony, patio, yard, deck or other area that only you have the right to use. If you have such an area, you may install a dish.

For more information the wording of this 1996 mandated FCC regulation go to:

http://www.vmcsatellite.com/bargains/right2satellite.html

Hope this helps.

 

Answer by kcross57
Submitted on 6/6/2004
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I lived in an apartment complex and asked about satellite.  They did not come out and say no only that the rules stated I would need to make an additional deposit of $200 and have a renter's insurance policy of $10,000 with them listed as the benificary.  That is how they got around the FCC regulations.

 

Answer by silkson
Submitted on 8/26/2004
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I'm sorry guys but there is no way to have a satellite system installed indoor. Do not search for it.

 

Answer by teflon_mikes
Submitted on 4/21/2005
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Go to satellitedish.com.  They have a dish in a briefcase

 

Answer by facetoface203
Submitted on 7/7/2005
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kcross57 -- They can't do that 'cause that's "unreasonably delay or prevent installation, maintenance or use; unreasonably increase the cost of installation, maintenance or use", per FCC regulations.

 

Answer by jas
Submitted on 10/4/2005
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I checked with my property manager and she is demanding a satellite insurance coverage of $100,000 liability and $25,000 property. I think this will cost me 200-300 dollars extra.

Does any one know any FCC regulation about that as well ?

 

Answer by George
Submitted on 12/22/2005
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In the USA FCC rule 207 prohibits restrictions on personal antennas in areas exclusively under the control of the owner or tenant; subject only to size (1m), safety, health and historical preservation.  The rule prohibits any circumstance that imposes a cost, a delay or a diminution of quality. It allows justifiable but limited restrictions such as set backs.  Re the answer of KCross.  The requirement for the deposit could be illegal. If the antenna were free-standing (not attached to the building) then the fee would be illegal.  The insurance requirement might be permissible if the landlord could prove the necessity.  The risk must exist and the burden of proof is on the landlord. In Canada I can find no equivalent entitlement.

 

Answer by esi
Submitted on 1/1/2006
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i am also looking for indoor small antena ,

 

Answer by busterthedog
Submitted on 3/20/2006
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Hi Guys

For those of you wanting to install satellite dishes that work within the house e.g. pointing out of a window . Then you should look at Cassegrain dishes. These look different than standard parabolic dishes in that the lnb/c is located at the rear of the dish. The signal is reflected via the dish to a hyperbolic reflector that then reflects the signal to the lnb. This double reflection in effect increases the efficiency of the dish. For example a 43 cm cassegrain dish is equivalent to a 60cm parabolic dish, a 57cm cassegrain is equivalent to an 80cm dish.

the signal reduction through glass is only normally about 10-12% so with most strong signals this presents no problem.

Hope this info is useful.

Cheers and goodluck

Busterthedog

 

Answer by Don
Submitted on 8/14/2006
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FCC Rules directly prohibit any association, landlord, or owner of an apartment bld, condo from requiring any additional payments, or requiring additional insurance to erect a satellite system.  The requirement to pay a $200.00 deposit is illegial as it is more than the cost of the satellite system which is also illegal.  As long as you erect the system in a non-common area you may install a satellite system with no restrictions.  This is the law!

 

Answer by Moshe
Submitted on 9/3/2006
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Just heard about a new thechnology from South Korea that the receiver itself is very tiny and works with a telescopic antena!

 

Answer by JasonR
Submitted on 9/17/2006
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If you take a look at the FCC regulations, your apartment complex cannot charge you an additional fee to have a satellite dish IF you are planning to install it in an outdoor area that is for your exclusive use (e.g., your private (not shared) balcony or porch).  They CAN restrict allowing you to bolt the dish to the building; however, you can get around this by mounting the dish on a tripod stand.  

In addition, why do they require you to make them the beneficiary of the renter's insurance?  Are they saying it is due to "safety issues"?  If so, then that doesn't fly either -- the FCC ruling says they can only limit satellite dishes based on safety if they also have other limitations of items of a similar size and weight, such as a heavy potted plant or chair, due to safety issues.

 

Answer by sid
Submitted on 5/28/2007
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hi i am side i came a crosse this question about having a satellite dish the only way is to to get a flat antena for a satellite they are so small it doesnt even look like one plus a satellite receiver and you'll get 1000 chanel

 

Answer by MORTEZA
Submitted on 6/24/2007
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can i use satellite receiver without dish ?

 

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