...true that a bull mastif is a cross between a rottweile...

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Answer by mr4speed@attbi.com
Submitted on 11/26/2003
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No. Mastiff's one of oldest purebred breeds. Various types of Mastiff's have been "bred" over the centuries to create the; Bullmastiff, Neopolitan Mastiff, Japaneese Mastiff and perhaps more, I'm no expert. Though many were bred as fighting dogs they are among the gentlest of large breeds. Origins go back to Roman times. Rottweiller,s I know quite abit about, having owned (& in the past, bred)them for more than a decade. They too date to Roman times and were used as pack/guard dogs for the Roman army. They ranged throughout Europe and remained popular as guard,herding & general farm work dogs. Rottweiler'shave been (unfortunately) over-bred (by American'smostly)& the integrity of the breed has largely been destroyed. If interested in a Rott be sure to study the German breed standards and PLEASE do not buy a dog from some moron advertising "150lb" sire/etc.-they`re not supposed to be anywhere near that size. 120 is a BIG male by proper standards. They are well tempered and EXTREEMLY loyal animals. Enough rambling, feel free to e-mail me w/questions or rants! Oh yeah, don't know squat about Pitbull'sexcept; it isn't the animal, it is the owner.

Answer by isisdawn
Submitted on 6/25/2004
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I own a bull mastiff/lab mix.she is beautiful and large weighing 115 lbs. she is very protective over our children and strangely over our other animals 3 cats and my husbands dog who is younger. brandi is up in age 6 years now(we had her since she was 7 weeks old) she is the best companion i have ever had.(and i have owned rotts,dobermans,g.shepards, and a wolf hybrid)from my research i have found that these dogs b.mastiffs--have been around since the Romans and they are 60% mastiff and 40% bulldog.they are very loyal to their family --brandi has already proved that when someone broke into our home-even after being shot by the robber she still brought him down and gave us time to grab our guns and get to our children.during all this happening, she was bleeding very bad--lung shot stomach shot and refused to let go of "her"attacker.it wasn't until the police arrived that she finally let go and it was the police officers who noticed how bad she was injured and rushed her to the emergency room.if it wasn't for her we may have been injured--if not killed--we later found out that the man was planing to kill us just to see if he can do it--he was on drugs. so if you own a bull mastiff you will know sooner or later just how much he/she loves you--they will give there life for you.these dogs were breed for protection and to be silent stalkers--you don't know they are there until you turn around. and the intruder that brandi brought down--well he said that he never knew we had a dog and she surprised him that is why he shot her but she had a death grip on his arm and with her weight he was pend down.so i send koodos to all the mastiffs and b. mastiff mixes.

Answer by Calgary Angel
Submitted on 8/17/2004
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My mother has two wonderful bull mastifs. They are sisters from the same litter. When they were pups my mom let them come up on her lap, treated them like babies. They grew up and are about 150 lbs each. They are the most wonderful dogs in the whole world. I go to my mom's house now, not to visit her but to say hello to the dogs. I have three children ages 9,7 and 2. The dogs are six months older then my youngest,he rides on their backs and the dogs love the attention. They are so protective over their family. When my husband, me and our kids were staying at my mothers house, my husband had forgotten his house key one night. He had to climb through a window, he was met at the window by a mouth full of teeth. Once he started talking to the girls, they realized who he was and started licking his face and saying hello. After that we knew we never had to worry about introders!

Answer by MastiffMommy
Submitted on 7/27/2005
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I have always been a fan of the Bull Mastiff and have wanted one for years. My husband and I chose a little dog first, since we didn't have a whole lot of room. Well, now we have two Pekingese and I just brought home a Neopolitan Mastiff. At 3 months old he is about 40 lbs. His paws are huge but he seems to be on the lean side right now. He certainly is a "silent stalker". You can hear the pekingese coming a mile away but Jake will knock you down and you would never have known he was in the room! Mastiffs are a great breed all around, especially for dog lovers. I do not, however, recommend getting a dog simply because "it looks mean." The Presa Canierio is a beautiful but muscular dog. If you aren't going to train it properly and give it the care it needs you are doing the dog a disservice.

Answer by kira44
Submitted on 10/27/2005
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I have a 8 month old OLD ENGLISH MASTIFF and she weighs in about 115 pounds. I am 5 foot 12 inches tall and when i stand her up on her hind legs she is pretty close to being eye to eye with me. keep in mind OLD ENGLISH MASTIFFS dont start to fill out until the age of 1 and 1/2 years and they dont reach full height until 1 year. Her father was 255 pounds (30 inches tall at withers)and mother was 200(27 inches tall at withers). I have seen rottweilers that were supposed to be 150-200 pounds and im telling you that they were no where near the size of the mastiffs that i saw that day. My aunt has a huge male rottweiler 4 years old that weighs in at 130 pounds hes a little overfed but her dog is no where near the size of the mastiffs at the breeders where i purchased my dog. if you have never seen a full grown PURE BRED adult male mastiff then i would say go to a breeder and look at one. they are enormous. im 220 pounds and i was scared crapless of the father of my dog. i felt like at any time he could just pick me up and throw me a mile. he was in a cage that had 3 chain link fences welded together and there was a spot in the fence where he had literaly pushed his entire head through the fence. i have a picture with him and his head is as big as my whole waist(size 38 waist) there is a reason why they say "As a lion is to a cat, a Mastiff is to a dog"

Answer by Carbix
Submitted on 12/1/2005
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Well i have had an English Mastiff. GREAT dog by far the best ever, for me at least. As far as i have been able to find the English Mastiff came from a dog used by the Egyptians for hunting lions. Thus came the size. It is thought to be one of the few true lines of what we call a dog next to a wolf. They can weigh up to about 200lb for a male BUT i have seen first hand a breeder in Canada BC have one to about 300lb (did not like the look of it tho...) On the part with the Rots, what has been said above is true, The Rotties have just about as much blood line of the Mastiff as do as a pug, at first thought that may sound like a joke but its true, a pug is a mastiff and so is a Rot BUT bred to be their breed over time. Rots can be breed to 200 pounds but i could do that to a lab over 100 years too. This is not to say that a 200lb Rot is a crap dog, some people take pride in what they do with their dogs, I saw a 12 year old 195lb Rot that could run faster then me... (im 21 and in shape :) And for the Pitbull X Mastiff. Its a breed that has come around in the past few years only bred at first for one thing, Fighting. This dog, in many cases is not safe (being that 90% is due to who owns the dog and 10% to the breed). My Mastiff i have now can take down a deer. Mixing this with a dog that has been inbread to be vishes is never a good idea. You may have this kind of dog and think it nice and loving and safe, but one day this dog may be just sick or the dog next door may be in heat and snap mastiff were bread to go for the neck, Pits have a lock jaw... your dead. ^o^

Answer by RoadRunner
Submitted on 12/6/2005
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G'Day I read the articles on Bullmastiff'sand would like to ask some advice. I have two cats that I have rescued from a refuge last year, and now have put my name to bring home a male BM that I saw in the same refuge today. He is about to be desexed and I would say from experience of growing up with different dog breeds all my life, that he would be between 18 months to two years old. He has a lovely nature at first glance, but that was through a cage so I am very concerned about how I could make this work with the two pets I own already. Do you have any ideas or methods that I can try to make them get along together once I bring him home? The thought of having to take him back inside the 10 day refund brings on failure. Hope you can give some advice. Kind Regards, Glenn.

Answer by Halie
Submitted on 3/4/2006
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I have a PIT BULL mixed with a BULL MASTIFF that I had gotten in Florida when I was visiting my dad. I brought her back on the plane with me when she weighed about 4 pounds. Now only 5 months later she weighs 89 pounds. They are really nice looking dogs and I am planning on breeding her soon with a bull mastiff. She isn't agressive at all but is still only 7 months old. before I had decited to bring her back with me I did alot of research on these dogs and I am only 13 so I am no expert, but I read that The Bullmastiff is known as the �Game Keeper's Dog.� and these dogs were used as guard dogs by the English game keepers to catch poachers. it is a cross between a BULLDOG and a MASTIFF, which makes for a very strong, large dog. It needs determined training and will be a good guard dog. Above all else, it must be controlled. And you should be sure to start your puppy's training early, because these dogs grow to be an animal of enormous size and powerful strength. But despite its enormity and weight, it is a very affectionate, loyal and loving animal. It does not need a lot of exercise, just a walk or a play in the yard. It can live in an apartment and it will be happy with a walk. And Little or no grooming is required.

Answer by something
Submitted on 12/27/2006
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it seems as though you people only care about size of the dog. Why? People have their own opinions on the best dogs. I cannot stand pittbulls simply because they are overbred where I am from and all you see is sorority girls and their pitts. I own two bullmastiffs and they were both raised to be gentle. My female is 133 pounds, A german import and my male is 144 both are extremely lean. My female dwarfs just about every rott that I have ever seen (male and female). Love the breed because of their personalities not because of how they look up against other dogs. For those people cross-breeding dogs- do more research. It is you who are ruining some of the best dog breeds out there. Why would you want to pay 1200 for a bullmastiff and 200 for a pitt and let them breed? Thats beyond me!

Answer by something
Submitted on 12/27/2006
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it seems as though you people only care about size of the dog. Why? People have their own opionions on the best dogs. I cannot stand pittbulls simply because they are overbred where I am from and all you see is sorority girls and their pitts. I own two bullmastiffs and they were both raised to be gentle. My female is 133 pounds, A german import and my male is 144 both are extremely lean. My female dwarfs just about every rott that I have ever seen (male and female). Love the breed because of their personalities not because of how they look up against other dogs. For those people cross-breeding dogs- do more research. It is you who are ruining some of the best dog breeds out there. Why would you want to pay 1200 for a bullmastiff and 200 for a pitt and let them breed? Thats beyond me!

Answer by Reddog
Submitted on 5/29/2007
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Yes.I have a friend in Southern Md. who is creating his own breed called the EXEGETIC basically it is a Neopolitan Bull Mastiff and a Cian Corso ,then he take a Puppy wait till breeding and breed it with a Pressa canario then take a pup and wait and breed it with a Pit...the dog will weigh about 175lbs..and will destroy anything..that comes near it even a Russian Mountain Dog with to me is killing anything around,,,and for the rotwielder a japanise akita that was only 9 months beat a Three year old rott German blood lines...and for the person who wondered if a rott was mixed..YES back in the day where they were used as guard and heard dogs ,,they are BLACK LABS mixed with DOBERMAN PINCERS..look at them and you'll see both dogs..[pincher in German means Terrier]

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Question by lennylynn
Submitted on 10/26/2003
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Is it true that a bull mastif is a cross between a rottweiler and a red nose pit bull???

Answer by Neeltje
Submitted on 12/7/2003
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NO, A bull Mastiff is a crossing between a mastiff and a English Bulldog. This a long, long time ago when English Bulldogs were a little bit bigger...

Answer by whatever
Submitted on 1/1/2004
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A BULLMASTIF CANT BE A MIX OF A ROTTWEILER AND A PIT MASTIFS WEIGHT ALOT MORE THEN BOTH BREEDS SO YOUR SAYING IF YOU HAVE GEO METRO AND FORD FIESTA YOU CAN MAKE H2 HUMMER COME ON

Answer by aldogreenock
Submitted on 1/10/2004
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a bullmastiff has absolutely nothing to do with rottweilers...this is a 1924 breed obtained by crossing Mastiffs with Bulldogs in england... and 'whatever'- what is this dog u speak of? a pitt mastiff? if its what i think you are talking about its a bandogge mastiff- which isnt even a pure breed dog anyway...and can be all sorts of weights...just depending on the 2 dogs it is crossed with...and they are not any larger than the rott or bullmastiff though mr4speed- 120lbs for a rottweiler i would say is relatively small- its an ok weight but i would prefer my rott to be around 140lbs...ive seen rotts nearly 200lbs before and they were not fat

Answer by Chris Pratap
Submitted on 2/24/2004
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I was wondering if they have ever cross bred bullmastiffs with pitbulls, and how would they would look ?

Answer by merc
Submitted on 3/16/2004
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pitbulls are the best dogs ever

Answer by condor
Submitted on 4/13/2004
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The BullMastiff is a breed about 75 years old. It is a mix between an English bulldog and a Mastiff. As far as the Rott goes if you have one around 120 lbs it could be a German Rott, they tend to run smaller and actually appear almost like a lab.

Answer by Bull Mastiff
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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Fact developed around 1860. 60% mastiff 40%bulldog.To stop poaching on the english estates.U.K.C recognised 1948.

Answer by tscop
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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FYI the original mastiff is now considered the "OLD ENGLISH MASTIFF" it is considered the heaviest breed with a range of 150 to 200 lb and even larger... but that is the standard. The mastiff dates back before the Romans and many consider it to be one of the 7 traceable lines for all of todays breeds. It is very possible that many breeds Rots, pits, most sled dogs, ect... all have mastiff way way back there lineage

Answer by Bull mastiff
Submitted on 5/2/2004
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OLD ENGLISH MASTIFF IS A DIFFERENT DOG TO THE BULL MASTIFF IN QUESTION DUE TO THE CROSS BREEDING OF 60% MASTIFF 40% BULLDOG.THANK YOU.

Answer by bulldogman
Submitted on 5/2/2004
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only a moron would believe tales of 150 - 200lb Rot's The biggest i'veever seen was about 135lbs and he was HUGE! everyone swore he was 180lbs or more but he was vet weighed at around 135lbs.

Answer by Dolemite
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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I have a bullmastiff/ Pitbull mix who is 10 weeks old and 26 pounds. his dad (bullmastiff) is 150 pounds. Two brothers from the last litter(pitbull, his mothers side) were 80 and 90 pounds. I am trying to get a feel for how large he will end up being as an adult. he was 13 pounds a month ago and doulbed size to 26 pounds at 10 weeks.

Answer by JDUB
Submitted on 5/13/2004
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The person talking about the Pitt Mastiff is probably referring to a Cane Corso which is not a type of Mastiff at all actually, if you want to talk big healthy smart dogs I have what is now called a Bull-Rott Bull Mastiff and rottweiler mix he's 4and 1/2 months and he weighs 60lbs check out www.wadleykennel.com for more info on them

Answer by greg
Submitted on 5/16/2004
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to: Answer by bulldogman Submitted on 5/2/2004 only a moron would believe tales of 150 - 200lb Rot's The biggest i'veever seen was about 135lbs and he was HUGE! - i have 3 rottweilers. Sampson, at 6 months, was 118 lbs, and hit 155 lbs with zero fat. the only moron my good friend, is you. sam at 6 months: http://www.gregborges.com/index2.htm he passed away with a myopathy, so save your ignorant comments about death and his weight. people love to talk but never back it up

Answer by marsh
Submitted on 5/17/2004
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My aunt does have a Rott that is 180...according to his vet. One of the largest dogs that her insurance compnay ever dealt with. Although he is up in age now, her home owners refused to sign her unless she had him neutered. She has lived in the same neighborhood in Chicago for over 30 years. Her house averaged being robbed once every year until 1997 when she got Bo (the Rott)...her home has not been robbed since. THERE ARE #180 Rotties out there.

Answer by lazur
Submitted on 6/7/2004
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It's very difficult to tell how fat a dog is until it's obese. To say your (?)lb Rott isn't 'fat' is a meaningless statement. It could be firm, well-formed, and high energy within a huge range of leanness/fatness. That said, a lean, 180-200lb is either an anomaly or a myth. My neighbor has a 160lb Cane Corso that -dwarfs- every Rott I've ever seen. (Incidentally, Cane Corsos most certainly ARE mastiffs.)

Answer by RANGER
Submitted on 6/13/2004
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PRESA CARNARY DOGS IS THAT JUST A HUGE PIT BULL BREED FOR SIZE? AND WHAT DOG IN SPAIN DID THEY REALLY ORIGINATE FROM? THEY SPEAK OF THIS DOG BUT NEVER GIVE A NAME OR DESCRIPTION OF THIS DOG THEY SUPPOSE TO HAVE ORIGINATE FROM; PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT BUYING TWO SINCE I'VE SEEN ONE IN PERSON THEY LOOK VERY STRONG AND SCARY.

Answer by pimp_juice
Submitted on 7/14/2004
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if u wanna make a pitbull use 3quarter irish staffy and 1quarter american bulldog. = pitbull,the best dog in the world.

Answer by Patrick
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4db23b3127ccebdb56d5a09940000001610 these two are 5 months http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4db23b3127ccebdb562b0c8d10000001610 this one is four months http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4da00b3127ccebd01e291fd3d0000001610

Answer by smoothgirl
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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hi just trying to find out i got a puppy from a friend that breeds pure bred dogs pits rots and German Shepard the puppy was part of a accentical litter for she is mixed with rot and pitbull. is there a name for her cross i have had people tell me she is a "rocwood" but i cant find anything on the internet backing that up. i just want to know she is loved even if she is a plain old mix. please contact me only if you have nice comments or know where i could get the info if it is out. there thanks and have a blessed day.

Answer by Patrick
Submitted on 6/28/2004
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The post I made before were of a 5 month old pitbull/bullmastiff puppy. Now he is seven months old, and about 105 pounds. He is very strong and also smart. Extremly protective at the same time loving, I couldn't ask for more of a dog.

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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i have a friend in new jersey that breeds rotts and his sire weighs in at about 190 pounds.

Answer by t
Submitted on 7/11/2004
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yes you can cross a bull mastiff and a pit bull i have one

Answer by Matthewmon
Submitted on 7/14/2004
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A guy I know told me he just got a puppy that is up to 60 lbs. and is gaining 5 lbs. a week. The name of the breed was kinda weird I think. Anyway he said the dog has the head of a pit bull and the body of a mastiff, he may have said the body of a bull-mastiff I can't remember. He said the dog would get to 225+lbs. Anybody know what kind of dog this is? Thanks.

Answer by mike
Submitted on 7/21/2004
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can anyone help me find a huge mix bullmastiff,mastiff,pit,american bulldog,cane,or argentino

Answer by bender
Submitted on 8/7/2004
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smoothgirl.TRY MONGREL

Answer by Litz
Submitted on 8/23/2004
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I have a question. How long does a bull Mastff live and what is bascially the cause of their death.

Answer by Lea
Submitted on 8/24/2004
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Oh, we have a lot of "challenged" people just typing without thinking...you people have the internet, do research! Cane Corsos ARE Italian mastiffs, descendants from the Neapolitan mastiff. Uhhh Rottweilers can get to be 200 lbs if their fat. I'd never take a 200Lb Rott, it definetly couldnt do what it was bred to do. I bet these people believe the stories of the gators in the toilets in NY...Presas are not big a** pit bulls...lol...Please don't breed your dogs if you have no idea of their breed standards.And there's no "new breed" Bull-Rott Bull Mastiff...lets just call that one a mutt.

Answer by marisa
Submitted on 8/26/2004
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you spell "bullmastiff" as ONE word, not two.

Answer by 25 yrs as a vet...
Submitted on 9/8/2004
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My goodness,ive never seen so many confused an wrong answears in my life,im sorry,LoL..But its true..Rotts over 150s would be heavily discouraged,you can always make a dog breed larger by selective large to largest mates, an alot of people do,sacraficeing health,bone structure an lifespan of their breed..An I know you dont make a Pitbull outta irish pitbulls an Am bulldogs.lol..the type has cross of terrier an bulldogs,but no certain types were ever definite only guesses,by what was available at that time..an what worked,more than likely alot of diff types of both..

Answer by vcar
Submitted on 9/10/2004
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The bull mastiff are basically designed to samll and ferious for fighting the bull with the courage of biting the bulls nose.Hence people bread OLD ENGLISH MASTIFF and a relatively very samll bull dog and the result was the BULL from bull dog and MASTIFF from OLD ENGLISH MASTIF.Bull mastiff are smaller than Old english mastiff and very lively than O.E. mastiff

Answer by jacr
Submitted on 9/11/2004
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a bull mastiff is a pittbull mixed with a greatdane

Answer by Moopyman37@aol
Submitted on 10/7/2004
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i also have a bull mastiff pit mix she is a female about 15 months old she is about 90 lb and growing she has been with us sincedecember when we got her their was nothing to her the other owner took bad care of her at first we had trouble getting her to eat right but she is finaly putting on weight we could not ask for a better pet people are always slowing down to look at her she looks like gigantic pit her body is brindle her face half brindle&white she is verry friendly and smart she plays with our cats and is great with kids but if you didnot know her you would be afraid to come in the yard

Answer by Help
Submitted on 10/11/2004
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Hey I have a year old rotty that just got pregnant by a French Mastiff and I want to know what they will look like and act like. Would people want these dogs?

Answer by dave
Submitted on 10/11/2004
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funny how everybody exaggerates the weight of their dog and it's always a round number like 180 or 140 not 182 or 147! any way the world record guiness heaviest dog is Zobra an English mastiff weighing in at 343lbs. you can see a picture at www.suite101/disscussion.cfm/19144108435

Answer by Bent
Submitted on 11/9/2004
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My wife called me today, asking if I would like to get a puppy, she found some mastiff cross black lab puppies. I'm not sure if they are pure bread on either side, but I am wondering if they would make a good family dog. This is what lead me to this discussion thread. Let me know what you think. Thanks

Answer by eddie
Submitted on 11/10/2004
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You all need to get lives!!!IM an idiot for even reading this nonsense!!

Answer by bulldogs1234
Submitted on 11/11/2004
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You can not bread a rot with a mastif! They just will not go to gether.