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Answer by BluChamp
Submitted on 5/27/2005
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Whoa!! Have any of you so called think you think know about breeding or breeders seen any CH champ'spedigrees recently. Are you aware that a large part of these dogs have had "inbreeding" or what is actually know as line breeding in their pedigrees. So when a dog takes the Champ award no one brings this up huh. But wait, he was the champ, how could line breeding (which is sooo bad) have produced a champ over the rest (non-inbred dogs in that competition? Now we have the folks that think that in breeding is WRONG!, then we got these other folks that say no it's okay if you are a knowledgeable breeder with many, many years of experience. So consider this, who's to say what comes from a litter is good or bad?? Who's a breeder to tell nature what to produce?? No amount of experience can reverse the sway of nature in any way. I will say that all though breeding sire to daughter is in breeding (and is actually what I consider the only way to inbred since line breeding is an actual method of bringing out very favorable traits and genetics) it does produce quality dogs. Other wise how would I own 3 CH Champs.

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Question by charles
Submitted on 10/2/2003
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can i as a breeder breed the following to each other : mother to son sister to brother father to daughter and other relations what generations to i skip and so forth thank you charles

Answer by Slick
Submitted on 10/2/2003
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No. The pups may come out with problems.Anyway think about it, would you wanna have a baby with your sister. No true breeder would do that.

Answer by Michelle
Submitted on 11/3/2003
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NO. You will have genetic defects due to the high number of recessive genes that occur in closely related animals. On another note, if you are asking a question like this you shouldn't be breeding in the first place.

Answer by dogofwar
Submitted on 11/12/2003
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despite what these other people will say especially Michelle who likes to tell people what to do (and is very rude and bossy ive noticed by looking at her comments through out these questions). it is called line breeding, litter mates are a no, breeding back to a parent is fine but it is all about the type of dog you want, generally you produce more aggressive dogs with line breeding, most of the major blood lines were tightly line bred, the best litters ive bred were my male bred back to his mother i do this because she is hot as hell, and thats how i like my dogs.

Answer by Archies_mom
Submitted on 11/27/2003
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Michelle is right on one thing. If you are asking a question like this you should not be breeding. But yes Mother to son , Father daughter,and anything but brother to sister they are too closely related. but don't do this unless you know what you are doing. Breeders only do this is they are trying to breed for something specific

Answer by Mrs. Roth
Submitted on 12/20/2003
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There are an estimated 15 million animals brought to American animal shelters annually and 12 million of them are put to death. The reason for this is Propagation. People are irresponsible. First of all you shouldn't be breeding at all. Secondly, if you must breed your animals you should know that one of the main reasons for genetic disorders of purebred animals is inbreeding. Please consider the consequences of your actions.

Answer by mac
Submitted on 4/16/2004
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charles,incest.would you consider it

Answer by CH
Submitted on 4/19/2004
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Ok, let's clear all of this up. Daughter to Father is ok,(or uncle) but only for one generation. IE. you can breed a male to female, then from that litter breed a female back to the sire. But don't take a female from that litter and breed back to her dad/grandfather. You can not breed a male back to his dam, and you can't breed full brother to sister. Half siblings are generally ok, but don't try to narrow the gene pool too much.

Answer by Vendetta
Submitted on 6/8/2004
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The best opinion so far is dogofwar and CH. As far as Michelle she must be single (can't find a suitable man). ;)

Answer by Choommiie
Submitted on 8/7/2005
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um well the uk royal family are really inbred look at the state of them.

Answer by jruss
Submitted on 11/30/2005
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CH thank you, that was a great answer to a question frequently asked. This is not a forum for your opinions, just answer with facts. Just the fact. And It is agreed that daughter to father for 1 gen is ok for line breeding. It is a practice for many breeds.

Answer by doug's dad
Submitted on 12/19/2005
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Slick line breeding has been an accepted in all breeds for a long time.If you are going to do it,it should be to renew a trait such as build or ability.To do this without skipping 3-4gens would pointless as it takes that long for the trait to reestablish.So if you have not already done this before leave to the breeders who know and understand there lineage.

Answer by jazwanabherd
Submitted on 9/12/2006
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Again the two best answer here are dogofwar and CH. CONTINUE to ask questions that is what makes GREAT BREEDERS, i.e. doing research and not assuming. : ) Whoever, said that you should not be breeding does not have a clue. The art a medicine and genetics is a practice...not something that is "only" found in text books. Think about it...How else would we know what can or cannot be breed? It is called trials and errors "from past experiences". : ) You will make a great breeder some day as long as you continue to ask question ; )

Answer by JR
Submitted on 1/18/2007
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Seems like this might be a controversal subject... does anyone have any sources to back up what you are saying?

Answer by mab
Submitted on 3/6/2007
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I just have a question of... is it bad, because this just happened to me, but my english bulldog has had 3 litters, and her first two litters were by the same dog and her last litter a different dog, is it bad that she hooked up with a puppy from the 2nd litter, or do i need to go get one of them "morning after" shots for her? PLEASE HELP ME!

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Answer by Lamb
Submitted on 3/7/2007
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Can you breed half- siblings to each other?

Answer by teddybearpomdogs
Submitted on 3/10/2007
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Looking for an answer to a problem of separate litter/siblings that accidently bred. And yes, I have to ask the question if it is ok to keep the litter due?

Answer by wcfantx
Submitted on 6/3/2007
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You cant tell someone if there right or wrong for wanting to breed there animals , after all if no one breed you wouldnt have a dog or cat or anyting else for that matter.

Answer by Jenn
Submitted on 6/10/2007
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I can't believe how hire then tho some of these answers are. Because she asked a question she should not breeed....that's unbelievable....if you don't ask you don't fined out.....I wonder if the people on this chat think they where just born with this knowledge and instead of saying mama or Dada they came out of their mother spouting off breeding info. Thank you and praises to the intelligent mature professions that answered this woman's question with a genuine breeders straight forward advice. BRAVO

Answer by lacrossegirly
Submitted on 7/14/2007
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ok this breeder normally never does this but accidently a sister got preganant by her brother is this ok? and this only happened once?? cause i am thinking about buying there puppy that they had? and the puppy will be my companion and not used for breeding again? thanks