I know game dogs are born game dogs but is it at all...

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Answer by CH
Submitted on 10/3/2004
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There is of course a general trend towards dog aggression in pit-bulls but this isn't always the case. Many of the gamest fighters of all times weren't dog aggressive in the least bit until they were in the pit. In the pit they were blood thirsty killers but out of the pit they were friendly, happy-go-lucky dogs who lived with several other dogs and usually a bunch of little kids. But about increasing the gameness; the only way is to pit test your dogs to see which is the gamer, and then pick the gamest male and breed him with the gamest female. Naturally if you had two dogs that were equally game and one was less aggressive, you could breed the less aggressive and possibly decrease the aggression of the offspring. Since this is all illegal and possibly immoral the only way to have game dogs without fighting them is to buy the gamest pit-tested dogs you can find to use for your breeding stock. So basically, if you want to keep a high quality of dog, aggression is just something you'll have to live with. However, even the most aggressive dogs can still be broken from attacking females, puppies, small dogs, and cats; just so long as you start working with them when they are young. One of the gamest dogs I have ever seen was best friends with a tabby cat. He had 8 wins in his career, but never once showed any aggression at all towards cats or small dogs.

Answer by jimbo
Submitted on 4/11/2005
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If you watch two wolves or pit dogs in a serius fight, you understand why aggresion has nothing to do with fight.There is no growling or barking and the backhair is not bristled, there is only absolut concentration.From my point a few GAMENES is nothing more than absolut concentration ability.Friendly dogs,shy dogs,or aggresiv dogs, all of them can be GAME cose concentration ability has nothing to do with friendly,shy or aggresiv behavior. The question should be:Why are most(90%)GAME dogs so friendly? Well,first you have to understand that you cant teach a dog concentration ability (GAMENES)becose that is a pure heredity thing.The old time breeder(AND THE BEST FROM TODAY)choose the breeding material with the help of pit contests.They watched her dogs in combat and so they find out wich dog never lost his focus, wich dog never lost his concentration ability or in her words wich dog was GAME.And some times they breed to game losers. They breed simply for pure concentration ability.......Well, like i sayd bevore,there are shy and aggresive game dogs but most of them are very smart and friendly.I think it is simply easy for a game dog to be friendly because this breeding selektion produced smart,inteligent and mentalstrong dogs.

Answer by jimbo
Submitted on 7/14/2005
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Aggression has nothing to do with gameness.Gameness is nothing more than pure concentration ability.If you use the fight as an genetic task, the concentration ability of your line will from generation to generation grow up. For example wolves have much more aggressiveness then any pit bull,but does it mean that they are able to kill a pit bull( one on one)? Of course not because aggressiveness has nothing to do with gameness A N D fighting ability! I think this is very easy to understand because if the increase of gameness would automatically mean the increase of aggression than every game dog must be unbelievable aggressive and that isnt so.Some of them are so called COLD DOGS that mean they are EXTREME UNAGGRESSIVE!They D O N T fight no matter what....! And these dogs are from deep game lines AND in some cases came from this COLD DOGS v e r y game daughters and sons! You see breeding for gameness has NOTHING to do with the increasing of aggressiveness.

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Question by prime pit picker
Submitted on 6/27/2004
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I know game dogs are born game dogs but is it at all possible to increase the game without increasing the aggression? Probably a dumb question but we all got to learn sometime.

Answer by PitDog
Submitted on 9/4/2004
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You can not increase gameness. They either have it or they don't. Some dogs are deep game while others are not game at all. Depends on the breeding, lines of dogs in breeding, and the individual dog. Truth is, 1 out of 200 dogs are game. This term is used far to much to describe mediocre dogs. Find an experienced mentor active in the dogs and learn all you can.

Answer by Butcher boy
Submitted on 9/13/2004
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Well that is a very good question. and yes you can. I own game dogs my self and the way I work mine out is using every day things that they have no aggression towards like walking on a harness fetch with a ball you can breed for a game stance and a game body or game temperament.But it also depends on the dog and his bloodline.

Answer by bailey
Submitted on 9/24/2004
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Yes i belive it is but it depends on how you raise and bring them on. A dog should not even be tested before 12 months of age.If you can read pat patricks "The game test" or "Schooling a dog" by the historian.This should give you the answer to your question.

Answer by Game Dawg
Submitted on 10/15/2004
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It is all about the training. If the dog is started out wrong,it is verry hard and in some cases impossible to retrain him/her. If most real game dog breeders have a dog that is mean to people they will kill it. They will kill it,because in a fight if there dog pays attenchion to a person in the audience it will give the other dog a chance to bite. And if you have never seen a fight one bite is all it takes.

Answer by CH
Submitted on 8/13/2004
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Hell no. A dog is either game or it isn't. Anyone who thinks they can take a dog that isn't game and make a killer out of it is not only headed for disappointment but probably also a lawsuit when that crazy mother f.cker gets loose and malls a kid. A gamebred pit wouldn't do it, but a kerr that has been "toughened up" damn sure will.

Answer by crae
Submitted on 11/3/2004
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game is purely genetic. all you can do is condition your dog.

Answer by Hiram van Rossem
Submitted on 2/11/2005
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The gameness of a gamedog is determined by is bloodline and the way it's trained. Thereby gameness is a form of aggression so if you want to increase the gameness you will increase the aggression in some way. But this increase in aggression is not the same for every dog because of the influence of it's bloodline. Hiram van Rossem (Rosmalen,the Netherlands) e-mail: hiram_van_rossem@hotmail.com

Answer by pit bull5
Submitted on 2/14/2005
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no its the aggression that is the game

Answer by SpencerPits
Submitted on 3/28/2005
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Gameness and prey drive are two different things. Prey drive can probably be heightened, but gameness is something inside. It's heart, if you will. It's either there or it isn't. Of course, there are varying degrees of gameness, but you cannot make a dog more or less game. And just because a dog snaps at every animal it sees, it certainly doesn't mean it's game. A truly deep game dog is one who is at death's door, and still continues on, never giving up, going forward as long as his body will allow him. A dog who is truly game is a sight to behold.

Answer by REDBOY
Submitted on 4/1/2005
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My pit was naturally game, but ive seen people make em tougher. How old is your dog? if its young dont expect to much.

Answer by Alesia
Submitted on 4/21/2005
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I don't know what it is question?

Answer by C
Submitted on 11/1/2005
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agression has nothing to do with gameness.

Answer by dr lopez
Submitted on 11/11/2005
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hell no...

Answer by GRANMA GAME
Submitted on 5/21/2006
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AGGRESSION TOWARDS WHAT YOU CANT CREATE GAMENESS YOU CANT BUILD EITHER YOUR DOG IS GAMEOR ITS NOT

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Answer by Senor GameDog
Submitted on 6/15/2006
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Real fighting dogs that are game are not human aggressive. If your dog is you need to break them from it or not breed the dog. I game dog is aggressive towards other animals not humans. In a dog fight, dogs are handled. If they bite a person they are culled.

Answer by timmyx2
Submitted on 7/4/2006
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my name is george and im wondering if dogs have to see in black and white how can cats have the same eye site

Answer by animal
Submitted on 8/3/2006
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why pit picker do you want your dog to fight. what is it in dog fighting that people love is it the pain and suffering caused and the crys from the dogs that turn you sick sick bastards on. i hope one day you meet a very nasty end.

Answer by Carolinapits
Submitted on 2/10/2007
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Gameness can be a learned trait.A dogs gameness will vary from day to day. However the dog has inherited traits in the genetic make up that creates the willingness to handle the situation at hand disreguarding pain or fatigue totally(gameness). Some dogs will never get it, and some dogs will never lose it.