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Question by HEATHER KARAKAS
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A BLACK IRISH SETTER? i have a dog in greece who is a pure setter, however he is black with a white stripe on is chest. what is he?

Answer by TizJu
Submitted on 6/24/2004
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I have a Black Irish Setter, he is half Setter and half Black Lab. His face tends to be a little bit of a chocolate lab color expecially in the sunlight.

Answer by dog lover
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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It is not possible for an Irish Setter to be black. They can only be redish types of colors, although it may be a gordon setter.

Answer by Biker Bob
Submitted on 9/20/2004
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I have half black lab, Irish setter. He is black with red tone when the sun light hits him a certain way. His muzzle is longer then a normal lab and he has that top bump on his head that Irish setters have. He is about 110lb. His hair is short like a labs except for some strands of long hair on his ears. I couldn't ask for a better dog.

Answer by JagGirl
Submitted on 12/14/2004
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My dog was a black Lab-Irish Setter mix, and she looked just like a black Irish setter. In the sun you could see the red coming through on her front legs. She also had a small white stripe on her chest. Your dog could also be a Flat Coated Retriever.

Answer by Diarro1956
Submitted on 2/2/2005
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I recently got a dog that looks like a black Irish Setter. Although your dog could be a mix of some sort or a breed I'm not familiar with, it sounds like you may have a "Flat-Coated Retriever" (although the breed standard does not include white anywhere on the dog.) Check the web for this breed.

Answer by tinker_bell
Submitted on 2/18/2005
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yea, its more than likely a mixed. try and find out what other breeds it has. maybe i can help. could you send a pic of the dog to yumskittle57@aol.com thanks

Answer by matt
Submitted on 3/1/2005
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There are other breeds that look like the Irish setter but are colors like Black and Liver such as the Flat coat retriever

Answer by wenholdra
Submitted on 5/9/2005
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It's absolutely possible to have a full-bred black Irish setter, thanks to a recessive gene. Black Irish pups are rare and are almost never registered by "show" breeders by their kennel name because they don't measure up to the standard. I once owned a Gordon setter (supposed to be black and tan) that was red with a white blaze -- his sister was red too. Don't doubt your breeder, just thank him/her for saving this great dog for you!

Answer by Ali
Submitted on 6/10/2005
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I just went to see a dog (answering a "free lab puppies" sign) and it was black with a white chest. It looked, for the most part, like a black lab. The owner said that the father is a black lab and the mother is an Irish setter.

Answer by Nance Jayne
Submitted on 8/11/2005
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I had a all black Gordon Setter, no tan at all any ware. His name was Hunt's Rick Majestic Shain. He came from a litter of black and tans. Shay was a unique in every way and the best bird dog ever.

Answer by Dogs RULE!
Submitted on 9/16/2005
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I have a Black lab/Irish setter mix. It's very possible to have a Black Irish Setter, because Sampson (my dog) is the same exact color and description as your's.

Answer by Michelle Adams
Submitted on 10/23/2005
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flat coat retrievers are beautiful, glossy black dogs...their coat is identical to an Irish Setter's, but it's glossy black. they are a little bit thicker than a plain old setter...but gorgeous, well-behaved animals.

Answer by heather karakas
Submitted on 10/25/2005
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i have found out , from his previous owner that my black irish setter in greece is half irish red setter and half black and white english setter. he is beautiful anyway whatever he is, but i was curious

Answer by Jessica
Submitted on 11/7/2005
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YES it is possible - I had a black Irish setter growing up & she came from 2 red irish setters. But they are considered "mistakes" and not "excepted" - how discriminating. She was the BEST dog ever. My father picked her because she was different and the owner wasn't going to be able to sell her.

Answer by WINONA
Submitted on 1/25/2007
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Answer by dan
Submitted on 11/27/2005
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ok, i want to tell you that you do not have an irish setter.you probably have a setter but it would have to be gordon or english to get the black

Answer by Town Dog
Submitted on 11/30/2005
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It is possible to have a black purebred irish setter. Since red is a pigment of black. The color black being the presence of all colors combined. This is a very rare color phase. I know a couple who had purebred male and female irish setters with papers on both and in almost every litter there were black puppies with a white mark on the chest and red puppies with white on the chest, in the same litter!

Answer by Loopi
Submitted on 3/15/2006
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Womp womp

Answer by TUX
Submitted on 3/22/2006
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I have exactly same dog - he is a cross between Irish & English Setter - black with white on chest - outstanding gun dog - pure setter - great disposition - will send photo if you so wish.

Answer by Emma
Submitted on 5/28/2006
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Irish Setters can only either be red, or red and white. Gordon Setters are black & tan. English Setters are white with black or red ticking. The dog is probably a cross setter or spaniel. Its impossible that he is purebred irish setter.

Answer by Laura
Submitted on 5/30/2006
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Irish setters are red, however they use to be red and white and now you can find red and white ones rarely, black irish setters are probably a mix breed. Gordan setters are black with definate red markings.

Answer by had some
Submitted on 7/16/2006
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several years ago, I had a half lab/half irish setter female and a pure irish setter male. they mated the red puppies were all short hair, the black puppies were long haired with all the features of an irish setter. when out in the sun the black had red highlights.

Answer by dz
Submitted on 7/18/2006
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i have like a black lab mixed but i don't know what it's mixed with it has white on his chest and he's black

Answer by heather karakas
Submitted on 9/10/2006
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I found out that his mom is a red setter and his dad is a gordon setter hence the pure look

Answer by Ginger
Submitted on 1/7/2007
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There have been black Irish Setters. Rarely seen, but they have been in some litters. They are gorgeous. Believed to be a throwback to Gordon influence in the breed. The standard even states that any black marking is to be disqualified which means it does show up. There are also solid red Gordon Setters but they are not "Irish" red.

Answer by Felipe
Submitted on 3/2/2007
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well, I have a black setter too, her father is a inglish setter and her mother is an irish setter so my dog is black and have a white stripe on is chest too!

Answer by kendra
Submitted on 6/11/2007
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i don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1