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Answer by CH
Submitted on 5/19/2004
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Rednose and Bluenose are just colors. Red is a recessive gene which many pit bulls carry even if they are a different color. The breeders in Ireland many years ago didn't interbreed their lines with anyone else's, and they often kept pedigrees secret and guarded them with their lives. When the gene pool is relatively small like that it tends to bring out recessive traits, i.e. Red. And as for blue, it is just a dilution of black. I'm not exactly sure how blues were originally bred, but most breeders I know will breed blues with blacks and take the blue dogs from that litter and breed back to blue, since breeding blue dogs to each other for too many generations can cause problems.

Answer by NOSUCHTHINGASRED
Submitted on 9/22/2004
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THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A RED NOSE PITBULL "RED" NOSE PITBULLS COME FROM BLUE NOSE PITBULLS ITS VERY LIKELY TO GET A "RED" NOSE OUT OF A BLUE ON BLUE BREEDING THESE "RED" NOSE ARE CALLED BLUEIS THE HAVE BLUE BLOOD ON THE ALL THE WAY JUST THAT THEIR NOSE ISNT BLUE "PINK" "RED" SAME THING EXEPT THAT THE "PINK" ISNT A FULL BLUEI ITS ALREADY BEEN CROSSED WITH A BLACK NOSE AND THE RED STANDS PURE BLUE NOW THE DIFFERENCE IS 1:AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRES,2:AMERICAN PITBULL TERRIER,AND 3:STAFFORDSHIRE .ONE BEING THE BIGGEST OF THE BREED BEIN A BLUE OR BLACK NOSE VERY GENTLE BREED TWO BEIN A MEDIUM SIZE "RED" OR BLACK NOSE VERY AGRESSIVE AND THREE THE SMALLEST VERY GENTLE BEIN A BLACK NOSE ONLY. IVE BEEN ROUND PIBULLS FOR A LONG TIME AND I HAVE ALOT OF FRIENDS WHO FIGHT THEM TOO I DONT BELIVE ON THAT BUT THE TRAITS THEY LOOK FOR ARE SHORT THICK LEGS, LONG BODY , MEDIUM HEAD , MOST IMPORTANT HUGE JAWS AND A LONG SNOUT

Answer by where_do_you_find_these_people
Submitted on 10/2/2004
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First I would like to say I am sorry to the person whom asked the question. A lot of people who have "NO IDEA" what they are talking about gave answers to the question. The problem with the answers is that they failed to explain the two different worlds of the American Pitbull Terrier. There are the Show pits & the Game pits. There are some blue nose and some red nose dogs that fall into both categories. I would say that the blues are more prominent in the Show ring and the Reds are more common in the catch dog / weight pull arena (game dog). Of the two the most poorly bred are the blue pits. The reason I say that is because there are lots of people out there color breeding for blue because they want to make money. Most of these people have no business breeding pitbulls at all. There are some that do the same thing with the red nose dogs, only it is less common. I know this because we have a big problem with it in this area. People who know nothing about the blue dogs buy a male and a female and just breed them to make a litter so that they can sell them. They didn't know anything about the dogs when they bought them, and had breeding them in mind long before they even lost their puppy teeth. I could keep going on this subject, but I think you get the idea. You can find good dogs that are blue nose and you can find good dogs that are red nose. You take a much bigger chance of getting a piece of crap dog buy purchasing a blue. There are 3 things that you need to remember. (1st) Bigger isn't always better in the pitbull world (2nd)You will never pay less for a good dog than what he is worth (3rd) you can easily pay more than what a dog is worth when you buy from a breeder that does nothing with his dogs but breed them for money. I would never buy a dog bred solely for show. That isn't where the pitbull came from and when you buy a show dog you aren't buying a pitbull at all. You are just buying a muscle bound worthless piece of junk. Buy a dog from someone who breeds for catch and you come close to the original thing. A pitbull is just like a book "it doesn't matter what the cover looks like, because its whats on the inside that counts" I think this is more what you were looking for.

Answer by UNIQUE PITS
Submitted on 12/27/2004
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I'm not to sure about the rest of these people but I'm not talking out of my ass or what my ass thinks it knows. I have a Blue piball UKC reg. and I have two Red Noses UKC reg.. 1st of all its not called a Blue nose pit!! They dont have blue noses they are black. They are called blue pits because of their color not their nose. Who in the world said that red nose pits were for fighting and blues were for breeding. I would agree with you on the fact that reds would be better for fighting then blues but it dont matter what kind of pit it is for fighting. Blue pits are more expensive because they have higher and better bloodlines. A true Red Nose Pit will have all red toe nails and HAZEL GREEN (yellow) eyes, red paws, and a thick red color "around" the lips and they dont have to be the full red color may also have white in it. Blue Pits come out solid, solid with some white mostly on the chest and they also have what is called "PIBALL" which has the blue and white patched like a cow. If you mix a Blue and a Red you dont get a chocolate RETARD!!!! They come out mixed colors and the dont look as good as keeping the colors the same. If you want a PITBULL that you can take to dog shows and have a respectable bloodline then you want a BLUE PIT. If looking for that muscle bound cock disel dog thats good for hunting,fighting then you want a RED NOSE PIT. Blues get big but they dont have the muscle mass of a Red. Oh and to the other RETARD RED NOSE PITS DONT HAVE RED EYES.

Answer by Brian
Submitted on 3/10/2005
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all of you are some clowns, its said that very few of you know what you are talking about. It is even more pitiful that half of you cannot spell or type well enough to even make sense. Well with all of your ignorance set aside, there is no difference between a red nose, a blue nose or a black nosed American pit bull terrier. It is just a color. They are all the exact same breed of dog, just color variations within the same breed. Because Pit bulls were never bred to be certain colors in the past because it was irrelevant when it came to fighting they now exist in many many colors. They are all the same. What color pit bull you prefer or think is more attractive is your own preference but remember that they are all the same breed of dog. I am sick of you people calling them different breeds, look and compare papers from every pit you can and different nose colors and they all say American Pit Bull Terrier (ADBA,UKC). They are all quite capable of doing any task you put before them regardless of color, a blue can win a show the same as a red and a black one can catch a hog just as good as a white one. Reds can be just as big or small as any other it all depends on what traits the breeder has emphasized on in their breeding regime. Thank you for reading my 2 cents.

Answer by hi school bully
Submitted on 3/27/2005
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now days it makes no difference what color the coat, eyes, markings, or nose. back in the days when our apbt'sancestors were mainly bred for the game, there was some lines that carried the distinct red nose. just so happens during those times alot of the fights were being won by these dogs. so naturally as humans love to exagerate "everything", the story of the fighting red nose pit bull was born. it's somewhat true, but over the last......100 plus generations of pits, just about every pit out there has that red nose in its genes. its up to the breeding to increase the chance of it showing up. anyways, its all preference..... just love the breed as a whole..... stop trying to seperate it.

Answer by hozay
Submitted on 6/10/2005
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The Only Difference Between the dogs Are The color!(Gene) A pit bull is a Amstaf. no difference.Please I urge you To study on the breed before you own one. There are many myths that Ruin the breeds rep. ------------------------------------ American Pit Bull Terrier ( APBT ) breed History The history of the Pit Bull varies depending on the sources you refer to. During the time of Minos in Crete the sport of bull baiting was quite a popular form of entertainment. This sport was developed as a part of the worship practice in honor of the warrior god "Mithras". During this time most dogs were wild and ferocious by nature. As the Roman tribes of the time conquered and moved across the land they also took the sport with them. Due to the selective breeding of the best dogs a distinctive breed began to emerge. By the 1700's there were two primary bull fighting dogs that had developed. This was the Blue poll of Scotland and the Alunt from Ireland both of which were referred to as bulldogs. The Alunt of the time resembled something closer to a Great Dane but is presumed to have later developed into the Alono of Spain. As this and other dog sports were developed people selectively breed different dogs to achieve the fighting attributes that they desired. They often mixed these breeds with the great dogs of England also used to bait bulls. During this time it was thought that the use of the dog on a bull had a tenderizing effect on the meat. In reality this was a myth perpetuated by dog men and gamblers in order to encourage participation and thus draw the profits of gambling. By the time of the early 1800's due to selective breeding a dog had emerged which was very similar to the American Pit Bull of today. Due to a slow economy and a law which prohibited people of low economic means from owning a sporting dog the practice of bull baiting began to diminish In 1835 bull baiting was officially banned. This forced people especially of the lower classes to find alternatives for their dogs. This resulted in a sport known as ratting where a number of rats were placed in a pit for a specified time with the dog. THIS IS IN FACT WHERE THE "PIT" IN THE AMERICAN Pit Bull TERRIER NAME CAME FROM NOT FROM FIGHTING OTHER DOGS. The terrier part of the name came from its ability to hunt small game and was one of the reasons why ratters knew it would excel in the rat Pit. The larger the number of kill the better the dog placed in the match. Due to the constraints of space and the agility of Black & Tan and now extinct White terriers of England these terriers were often being mixed with the old bull baiting dogs to achieve dogs which were premium for these purposes. It is believed that this practice of mixing bulldog's and terriers began in the town of Staffordshire England and became known as the Staffordshire Bull and terrier. Due to the agility and gameness of this new found breed many began to also fight dogs with each other. Soon dog on dog fighting and ratting became so popular that practically all Inns and Pubs were equipped with a fighting pit. As colonization of America and Canada began these people also brought their dogs. These dogs soon became known by the name of "Pit Bull Terriers" As time progressed a gentleman by the name Chauncy Bennett founded the UKC in 1898 with the American Pit Bull Terrier as its foundation dog breed. Although some are fortunate enough to own a UKC registered Pit's the majority of the public has chose to not register their dogs due to financial constraints and subsequent loss of bloodline determination. Here at The American Pit Bull Registry we seek to turn this trend around and to register peoples otherwise un-registered American Pit Bulls and to encourage people with otherwise registered Pit Bulls to dually register their dogs here. By the time of WWI the American Pit Bull Terrier had became a well loved and desired dog. In fact the Pit Bull was used as Americas canine mascot of the time American Pit Bull Terrier ( APBT ) breed History The history of the Pit Bull varies depending on the sources you refer to. One of these stories, and in my opinion the most reliable, goes back to the time of the Romans. During the time of Minos in Crete the sport of bull baiting was quite a popular form of entertainment. This sport was developed as a part of the worship practice in honor of the warrior god "Mithras". During this time most dogs were wild and ferocious by nature. As the Roman tribes of the time conquered and moved across the land they also took the sport with them. Due to the selective breeding of the best dogs a distinctive breed began to emerge. By the 1700's there were two primary bull fighting dogs that had developed. This was the Blue poll of Scotland and the Alunt from Ireland both of which were referred to as bulldogs. The Alunt of the time resembled something closer to a Great Dane but is presumed to have later developed into the Alono of Spain as seen below. (click picture to enlarge) As this and other dog sports were developed people selectively breed different dogs to achieve the fighting attributes that they desired. They often mixed these breeds with the great dogs of England also used to bait bulls. During this time it was thought that the use of the dog on a bull had a tenderizing effect on the meat. In reality this was a myth perpetuated by dog men and gamblers in order to encourage participation and thus draw the profits of gambling. By the time of the early 1800's due to selective breeding a dog had emerged which was very similar to the American Pit Bull of today. Due to a slow economy and a law which prohibited people of low economic means from owning a sporting dog the practice of bull baiting began to diminish. In 1835 bull baiting was officially banned. This forced people especially of the lower classes to find alternatives for their dogs. This resulted in a sport known as ratting where a number of rats were placed in a pit for a specified time with the dog. THIS IS IN FACT WHERE THE "PIT" IN THE AMERICAN Pit Bull TERRIER NAME CAME FROM NOT FROM FIGHTING OTHER DOGS. The terrier part of the name came from its ability to hunt small game and was one of the reasons why ratters knew it would excel in the rat Pit. The larger the number of kill the better the dog placed in the match. Due to the constraints of space and the agility of Black & Tan and now extinct White terriers of England these terriers were often being mixed with the old bull baiting dogs to achieve dogs which were premium for these purposes. It is believed that this practice of mixing bulldog's and terriers began in the town of Staffordshire England and became known as the Staffordshire Bull and terrier. Due to the agility and gameness of this new found breed many began to also fight dogs with each other. Soon dog on dog fighting and ratting became so popular that practically all Inns and Pubs were equipped with a fighting pit. As colonization of America and Canada began these people also brought their dogs. These dogs soon became known by the name of "Pit Bull Terriers" As time progressed a gentleman by the name Chauncy Bennett founded the UKC in 1898 with the American Pit Bull Terrier as its foundation dog breed. Although some are fortunate enough to own a UKC registered Pit's the majority of the public has chose to not register their dogs due to financial constraints and subsequent loss of bloodline determination. Here at The American Pit Bull Registry we seek to turn this trend around and to register peoples otherwise un-registered American Pit Bulls and to encourage people with otherwise registered Pit Bulls to dually register their dogs here. By the time of WWI the American Pit Bull Terrier had became a well loved and desired dog. In fact the Pit Bull was used as Americas canine mascot of the time and seen in such posters as this during war time. (click picture to enlarge) In 1917 a Pit Bull by the name of Sgt. Stubby became a war hero for saving several soldiers lives and even capturing a German Spy while in the trenches of France with the 26th Yankee Division. Later the Pit Bull was used to signify sturdiness, dependability, and loyalty by such organizations as RCA, Buster Brown shoes, and even the loveable Pete of the Little Rascals. In fact the first dog to travel across America in a car was a Pit Bull ( Bud ) and did so with the first persons ( Horatio Jackson and his assistant and "bicycle" mechanic Sewall Crocker ) to cross America in a car ( A Winton named the Vermont). Horatio later donated Bud's goggles to the Smithsonian Institute in Washington D.C. During the trip Bud would assist in watching for large bumps in the road and often received as much if not more attention by the press than did Jackson. After the trip was completed Bud bravely guarded the Jackson home until his death of old age.

Answer by colakennel
Submitted on 6/14/2005
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most of the answers so far are incomplete.speaking from experience,i own a "blue" and a rednose.it has been my experience that the rednose is a more complete dog.a better companion and generally smarter.the problem w/most blues is that most breeders these days are complete scum looking to make easy money.breeding dogs is relatively easy to learn and alot of money can easily be made.these "people" are'ntthe type of breeder you want to buy from as the'remain concern is creating a dog that looks good so the money will come.they don't have the dog in mind when they breed and most don't take proper care of the animals in their kennel.my blue makes for a good watchdog,but thats about all she's good for.she has a somewhat unpredictable nature and is not preportioned well.she was bred to be very thick and short,the breeders self admitted "goal".this short thick stature is the result of purposely chosen inbreeding.my dog also has a "kink" in her tail.not to mention the numerous vet visits i have had to make for skin problems.my rednose has had no problems.you would be wise to stay away from these breeders, even if they seem professional and curtious.take your time and do research to find a reputable breeder.these bad breeders are ruining the reputation of the pitbull by breeding for looks instead of the overall complete dog.often temperment will be overlooked becuase that dog has a desired physical feature.now as for my rednose,he has the typical pitbull temperment,which is smart,loving,curageous,and loyal.he is also perfectly proportioned,which shows when he plays because he's so agile.my blue can barely walk up the steps,let alone jump off the ground.so speaking for the abused,neglected,and lonely pitbulls across the u.s.please don't fall into this "fad" that is the blue pit.it seems as though people want a short thick dog becauase they look strong and intimidating.the opposite is true.these dogs are too short and thick to move correctely.even though my blue is a great watchdog,i would wan'tmy rednose in my corner if the stuff hit the fan!

Answer by Blue Bully
Submitted on 8/25/2005
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Pit Bulls are traditionally a performance breed. That means that they were originally bred based on how well they performed a certain task, not what they looked like. Color was probably the least important thing that oldtime breeders of Pit Bulls considered. Today, Pit Bulls remain largely a working/performance dog, and so the old way of doing things as far as looks are concerned largely still holds fast. True, many Pit Bulls today are also bred with the show ring in mind, however color is of almost zero importance even in that venue. No one who really knows Pit Bulls is all that impressed by color. A flashy color does not a good dog make, and although many people have favorite colors, breed-saavy people know that it's what's under the coat that counts..... So all of you that think you have a clue of what you're speaking, do your research before opening your mouth.. It makes me sick to read someones idiotic thoughts on here, its those who give the breed a bad rep.

Answer by Guerrilla96
Submitted on 9/16/2005
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The difference between the two dogs is color. Red nose pits come in a mass amount of colors any where from white on black to brindle there is no set type of colors. Now blue nose pits have been known to come in a more specific color range such as blue, blue on white, blue brindle, blue fawn etc. But when it comes down to it they are both American Pitbull Terriers and the difference lays in the bloodlines such as Razer Edge(more aggresive type), Gaff(most are blue fawn), Nevada, York, Gotti(big and stocky type) the list goes on. The nose the ring around the eyes is either red or blue and red nose pit don't have any blue if they are pure breed, I have seen mix breed and they vary depending on dominating genes or come with a purple type of nose rarely. As far as the history on blue nose pits they have become popular maybe with in the last 20 years not sure on that?

Answer by tsmith
Submitted on 9/17/2005
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I can't believe you guys a blue pit, blue nose pitt, are a recycled bread dog. All pits come from red nosed dogs. The black color dogs are from a result of inbreeding and line breading colors which people liked. Keeping like colors which same or different mates in order to put colors together. The white color was a direct result. Mutation or albino trait so then mixing white with black or dark brindle u get your grey blue lines. Or a 75% or less albino trait will dilute your coloring. Color don't have nothing to do with temperment you control that your dog acts like you. I've seen 90 pound champ that go 2hrs and guess what ther blue, and check this out it 75% watch dog. He put on a show alright.

Answer by o.g.dublinur
Submitted on 12/5/2005
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all the info here is about fighting.....a red nose pitbull is generaly 50-65 pounds...and has 1300 pounds of pressure in its jawls....a bluenose pitbull is generally 80-110 pounds...with 2200 or more pounds at the jawls...the smaller pitbulls are more adgile...but are less bulky wich leads to skin tears....the stronger larger dogs almost always win.....but most blue nose owners wont fight a dog they spent thousands on....the breed of pitbull is pitbull....the news and info on pitbulls is right the reds have tendancy to snap....the blues are less likely to because there over bred...and socialized more because evryone loves the blue color.....and the nose color is what matters.........but they are all pitbulls....

Answer by Nick
Submitted on 12/29/2005
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I have a message for all people who own "pitbulls" and think that they know everything about them. Being a postgraduate in genetics and owning pitbulls myself, i can tell you that the difference between red nose and black nose pits are just that, dogs with red noses and dogs with black noses. People think that red noses are fighting dogs which is absolute bollocks. In fact the original fighting pits were infact black noses and that the most famous champions were black noses too. red nose dogs are just a fashion accessory and does not determine any of the characteristics of the dog. Just one last thing, there is no such thing as a blue nose pit, by this i mean its not a genetic trait. its just how the nose appears in certain light.

Answer by Pipbull
Submitted on 12/30/2005
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You are all so friggin ignorant about pits. Color is nothing but that, color. Black nose is the natural color, red and blue are both recessive genes. Also, nose color has nothing to do with eye color, coat color, size, or anything. I own three pits, a white and fawn with black nose and black eyes, a chocolate and white red nose with green eyes, and a grey/blue and white with red nose and amber eyes. The last two are rare, but they just show that the variety exists. As far as breeding them for fighting or show is also bull. It's true most black and red nose are bred for working, because they were originally game bred. But all dogs can be used for show, plus there are many types of shows. GOD, you all know nothing about pits... Plus, fighters can be any color, and the new fighters are blue hippo pits anyway, so everyone just shut up unless they know what they are talking about.

Answer by patch
Submitted on 1/3/2006
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As stated by someone already the only difference is that it is a a different color dog. APBTs come in many colors see www.apbtconformation.com for tons of info. Also FYI banananutcreamer69 the color has nothing to do with what the dog is used for. Both blue and a red nose APBTs can be show dogs If they are conformationally correct and have good temperaments No APBTs should be used in fighting as it is illegal and in the past when dogs where faught color didn't matter any way All colors of APBTs make great working dogs for things like weight pull, obedience and agility as well. They also are used as therapy dogs, for herding, ScH etc. I don't agree with the sport of hog hunting Another good site to learn about the breed is www.realpitbull.com I own and show APBTs who are CH and GRCH have agility titles and or are therapy dogs

Answer by Rock
Submitted on 1/14/2006
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a red nose pit is a skinny fightin type of pitbull an a bluenose is an all aroud dog it makes a good house pet.blue nose is least likely to turn on its family/owners. reds are loyal but very aggressive but are trainable to lose aggression. blues are loyal an are very smart there are very good with kids.reds are the same as far as strenth goes there just more sleek. blues have a wider mouth span but reds mouth will do more damage.THEY ARE BOTH VERY GOOD DOGS AS LONG AS THEY GET PROPER TRAINING. i would say from experience that both that they are both very smart dogs an i have a friend that has red nose & blue noses in his house an he from me seeing both types they are both athletic but a rednose is more sleek an more sportive. as where a blue nose is more buff. but neither are slaves an dont deserve to be in a house hold where their owner/owners are goin to use them to fight i am a pit feen an i feel that if u fight them you cant love them

Answer by the dog man
Submitted on 2/24/2006
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red pits are from chad, africa. they were used by tribal villagers to hunt for food. but the lions were killing them so they banned them from africa. and where does one go when you are banned? the usa of-course. to replace the red nose in chad they are now using shaved french poodles. they seem to scare the lions away. bluenose pits are from chile, s.america. they were used to help fisherman catch fish due to their cat like reflexes and huge paw. and their blue nose has a toxin that attracts fish from 20 miles away. because of that fishermans were trying to cut their noses off but the pits had a plan to escape chile and migrated to the states like the cubans and mexicans. does that answer your question?

Answer by nick
Submitted on 3/9/2006
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for all of you who are guessing you all should shut up and save your breath. red nose isnt even a breed. the name stretched off the bloodline old family redboy. but yes the nose is red and or pink. and as far as a rednose being a better fighter, that all comes with the bloodline....(colby,toney,jeep,yellow jon)so it really has nothin to do with the color unless thats all you are lookin for. and for the blue nose pits. in all the years of dog breeding its never truely been a bread. its from dog breeders mixing two bloods and getting a certain color puppy, then taking that puppy breeding it back into the same color blue or grey coated dog. after a couple breedings all your mixing is the genes were the colors overtake what most people are looking for like, size, attitude, bite, ect..... therefor all your getting is the blue colored dogs. mainly these dogs are breed for money purposes because everybody wants a blue dog. tell you the truth there is no game once so ever in them with the exception of good bloodlines. me percinally am in love with the old fassion bloods like the colby dogs or jeep and toney.

Answer by G.I. THE BEASTMASTER
Submitted on 3/18/2006
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TAKE A CHOCOLATE AND A BLACK YOU MIGHT GET A BLUE. BLUES AND BLACKS DO NOT MAKE BLUES. YOU MAY GET A BLUE BY BREEDING A BLUE WITH ANY LIGHT COLOR PITS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY ARE ALL PIT BULLS. NO DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER BUT PERSONALITIES REGARDLESS TO COLORS. BLUES ARE NOT USED FOR FIGHTING ONLY BECAUSE THEIR SCARS LOOK WORSE. TOO PRETTY OF A DOG. THEY ARE BETTER OFF BEING BRED FOR MONEY. THAT IS ALL. AGAIN THEY ARE ALL PIT BULLS. REDS WERE OFFSPRINGS DROWNED BY BREEDERS IN THE 1800'S THEY WERE TOO LARGE TOO DIFFERENT AND TOO HYPER. 45 POUNDS WAS A PREFERENCE FOR FIGHTING. IN THE 1920'S REDNOSE 55 POUND "CENTIPEDE" THE CREAM OF OKLAHOMA, WHO WAS PASSED DOWN BY MANY BREEDERS, WAS KEPT BY ONE BREEDER WHO FOUND HIM THE MOST INTELLIGENT DOG HE EVER HAD AND WAS THE BEST FIGHTER EVER. ABLE TO BEAT LIGHT AND HEAVY WEIGHTS. HE GAVE REDNOSES RECOGNITION. BREEDING REDNOSES TOO MUCH TOGETHER LATER GAVE A NEW STRAIN, "BLUES" ONCE CALLED BLUEPOLLS OR BLUE PAULS NOW CALLED BLUENOSES BECAUSE OF THE PHRASE REDNOSES. A BLUE IS A CHOCOLATE SO DEEP IT BECOMES GREY AND THE LIGHTER THE GREY THE CLOSER TO REDNOSE THE DOG IS. THE DARKER THE GREY THE MORE BLUE IT IS. ANY DARKER WILL BE BLACK. THEREFORE, BREEDING BLUES WITH BLACKS WILL BRING YOU BACKWARDS. GREY IS IN THE MIDDLE AND THEREFORE RARE. BREED YOUR BLUE WITH A WHITE PIT OR BEIGE REGARDLESS TO THE COLOR OF THE NOSE. YOU WILL GET BLUES. NOT EVERY BREEDER KNOWS THIS. THAT IS WHY THEY STICK TO BREEDING BLUES WITH BLUES. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. THAT IS YOUR ANSWER.

Answer by spuerto52772
Submitted on 3/21/2006
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There is a difference. Obviously its the color of their nose and coat. Red noses have a light rusty orange to dark chocolate color coat with a darker faded pink nose and yellow eyes. A lot of famous rednose bloodlines are jeep, old-family red, china, and chanook. Blue noses can come from any breed of pits. It's just a rarity to find one. They are hard to come by and that is usually why they are more expensive. Their coat is either a light greyish-blue to a dark greyish-blue, their nose is a greyish blue also. Their eyes are most commonly yellow. They are absolutely beautiful dogs. But most agressive bloodlines that are used for pit-fighting and hog hunting etc. etc. are red nose pits. They tend to have more game and agressiveness in their bloodline.

Answer by AmericanVet
Submitted on 4/4/2006
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Ok Folks Answer by CH is correct for the Reds as far as blues go Answer by CH is also correct but in that answer follows True American Pitbulls and American Staffordshire Terriers also knowen as American Staffordshire Bull Terriers What is knowen is at one time both dog were the same dog but through years of breeding they are now two diffrent dogs Your Blues are in fact actually made up from American Staffordshire Terriers and crossing American Bulldogs and masstifs to create the Very large Block Head Dog once this size was created they then breed into the American Pit Bull Terrier and calling them Blue Pits witch is not very true they have done wonders in the breeding but bule in not a gene with the Pitbulls it was added to create somthing knew UKC is starting to change titles for these very large dogs since they do not fall into the proper confermation of the true breed

Answer by limestone
Submitted on 5/9/2006
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The only person who answered this question that isnt a freaking schmuck is the guy who called all of you guys schmucks!!!!!!!! The color of a pitbulls nose has nothing to do with if they are good fighting dogs or if they are meant to be bread or any other stupid ignorant answer like it think about it when a kid is born sometimes it has brown hair sometimes red sometimes blonde, Well when a puppy pit is born sometimes they have rednoses or sometimes they have blue it is that simple you can get a grade A dog with either color of nose and all pitbulls have the trait of fighting in them it is what pits were bread for do your research before answering a question you dont know idiots you are the people that should not have a pit and give this dog a bad name go buy a poodle

Answer by 650
Submitted on 8/8/2006
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all of these are stupid answers, especially Kamie.. I have a red nose pitt who is all white except for brown freckles on the ears.. she is called a RED NOSE PITT because she was bred by a mom who was in the red nose breed and a dad who was in the red nose breed... infact it has nothing to do with the actual colors of the nose.. cause my puppy's nose is blue. Blue nose pitts are a different breed of pittbull, and so are american pitts, they're all different breeds... The differences are subtle but are mostly in the head and body shape; also the character of the dog.. red noses tend to be rougher and harder to train. ever heard of american bulldog and a british bulldog? They are not the same either.

Answer by j
Submitted on 10/31/2006
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you all are confused except for CH. study a little about K-9 genetics. Genes (colors and traits) can be mixed up infinitely and coat colors, nose colors and eye colors do not always carry together. Like CH said with a small gene pool, recessive genes tend to become dominant. so selective breeding for color generally provides more consistent color results. same with breeding for intelligence and or behavior (or aggressiveness for you guys who think you are tough for fighting dogs). but genes from a dogs great grandparents are still carried with the dogs and you can get colors that have not been seen in generations. To expect a color to tell you anything about the behavior of a dog is plain ignorance. most likely every pit has fighting dogs in their bloodline. with as much backyard breeding that takes place with these dogs you really have to be careful when purchasing one. DONT BREED YOUR OWN PITS. you dont know what you are doing. you can create major health problems and aggression disorders. leave it to the pros and let this breed prosper! breeding kennels are not always breeding for the right reasons either. Do your research, and learn how to raise a pitbull properly. You people who buy them to look tough and hang thirty pounds of chain around their necks and tie them up all day are retarded. most of you cant even teach your dog to fetch. have some respect for the breed. thats my piece.

Answer by ThE760SnOoP
Submitted on 11/22/2006
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Pit Bulls, Red Nose, Blue Pit Bulls, American Pit Bull Terriers, What on Earth does all of this mean!? If you are confused about all the names you see associated with the American Pit Bull Terrier the following article will help answer your questions and clear up some common misconceptions too. First and foremost there is only one breed of dog that can be called a "Pit Bull" and that is "The American Pit Bull Terrier." The APBT is the only breed with the words, "Pit Bull" in its name, therefore when someone refers to a "Pit Bull" using capital letters they are talking about a purebred American Pit Bull Terrier. What happened is, the media and people who don't have a clue about what a real APBT looks like started attaching generic names to dogs that are similar in appearence. The most common dogs referred to as "pitbulls" are: The American Staffordshire Terrier (a close cousin to or some think the same breed as the APBT) The Staffordshire Bull Terrier (also referred to as the English Staffordshire Bull Terrier) The American Bulldog The Dogo Argentino The Bull Terrier The Presa Canerio The American Pit Bull Terrier or any mix of the above breeds. Red Nose, Blue Nose, Black Nose, and other Noses How this nose color craze started I'm not sure of. However, I do have an idea about what caused it. There are many types of American Pit Bull Terrier. You have show dogs, working dogs, and various line types. One of the most famous line types is the Colby line. You also have breed types. More on this in a later article. Right now we'll stick with a basic understanding of the two. Breed Types - A breed of dogs appearance as a breed. The American Pit Bull Terrier is a medium sized dog that is well built and muscular that ranges from 35-65 lbs in weight. This is a breed type. Line Types - Line types are a result of a specific breeding programs effects on the breed type. Going back to the Colby example, after 100 years of line breeding they have produced a distinct looking do. Black brindle with white blazes or completely white heads. They also have a fawn and fawn/white type of dog they produce. Sorrell dogs are another example line type. Sorrell dogs are usually fawn with no other colorings and a black muzzle and nose. These dogs are very "average" looking in appearance but the years of breeding have produced a distinct looking dog and after you've been around for a while you can tell a Sorrell from a Colby dog just by looking at them. Now we get to the meat of the matter. Where did these red noses and blue noses come from? I suspect the Old Family Red Nose dogs out of Ireland started this trend. People started calling them, "Old Family Reds" and "Red noses" because they had a distinct red coat with red nose with golden eyes. I have never seen a real Old Family Red Nose but from discriptions they were gorgeous dogs I'm sure. So people started calling them by nose color and some even think they are different breeds. This is crazy if you ask me. I get questions from people saying, "I have a red/red nose, what breed is she?" Shes a red/red nose American Pit Bull Terrier. The same goes for any APBT with a colored nose, coat or whatever. They are the same breed they just have different characteristics. In Conclusion There is only one Pit Bull and that is The American Pit Bull Terrier. If they have a red nose, blue nose, blue coat, red coat, brindle coat, cream coat, fawn with white patches or a black mask, it doesn't matter at all. They are still 100% American Pit Bull Terriers (unless they are known mix breeds). So next time some one starts talking about their different breed of APBT called a "red nose" you will know they have no clue what they are talking about and they simply have an American Pit Bull Terrier with a red nose. :o)

Answer by knuckles
Submitted on 12/11/2006
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No one really knows when these dogs first came to this country, but the great breeder William J. Lightner once told me that his grandfather raised them before the Civil War. It is quite possible that they were even here during the Revolutionary War. In any case, it is clear that dogs of this breed came from various parts of Europe, specifically Spain and Sicily. But little is known about these earliest importations, because nothing was written about them. (Books and periodicals containing information about dogs were rare in those days.) Their existence can be inferred from artwork, however. The most famous importations were from Ireland, and were generally made by the Irish themselves after they emigrated to this country.(The bulk of the Irish pit dog importations coincides or closely follows the great Irish migration that resulted from the famous potato famine.) Most of the Irish dogs were small and very closely inbred, but their gameness was proverbial-especially that of the group of strains that was known as the Old Family. The following article Ion the Old Family Reds (just one segment of the Old Family bloodlines) is reprinted from Bloodlines Journal

Answer by pit enthusiast
Submitted on 12/26/2006
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I agree with one other writer that half of you responding have the slightest idea of the difference of the dogs. Only 1 out of the 10 responses gave an educated best guess and/or historical fact and only recieved 2 1/2 stars.lol!!! The difference is found in the bloodline and also is referred to as the color. The grey color in a dog is generally referred to as "blue." These dogs are bred in many different forms and for many different reasons, but why they are bred has no affect on determining "bluenose" or "rednose." Historcal fact shows that the breed was bred as a working dog/game dog. I cannot pinpoint for you the difference in genetics, but if you continue to study the breed and its history, I am sure you will discover the correct answer. Last but not least, for the comment on blues being for show.... do your homework. The American Kennel Club (AKC), does not recognize "pitbull" as a breed. Therefore, the American Staffordshire, also a pitbull, is the recognized name for "pitbull" and is the show dog of the breed. I claim not to know everything, but for most of you commenting I see that ignorance is bliss.

Answer by J lynn
Submitted on 1/15/2007
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the difference between a red and blue nose pit is simply this. color. a blue nose pitbull use to be somthing that was a fluke it just happned . and yes they are rare. thats why some breeders will take a blue female and male blues and breed them together is so they can have blue puppies. it is possible to get a blue out of a rednose litter just rare. blue are grey in color and range any where from a light grey to almost black grey. F.y.i blues sale for three times the cost of rednose pit bulls. and to the guy that commented on blue are for fighting. your wrong. pits were intended for boar hunting not fighting it horrible owners that fight any breed of dog and give them a bad rap. BLUES WERE NOT BREED FOR FIGHTING.

Answer by janiart
Submitted on 1/26/2007
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there is no difference in the dogs except color...they are the same exact breed. all pit bulls are actually "american pit bull terriers" and are bred for other qualities than color, so they come in all the colors that dogs can be. red nose pits and blue nose pits are simply color variations, and are in all other ways exactly like each other and all other pit bulls. since color isn't an important factor in determining the quality of a pit, it's not an issue when it comes to value of the dog, or personality traits either. pit bulls are wonderful dogs who've been given a bad name by the press and people who are afraid of them. also many pit bull owners don't know how to raise them to be good dogs...i've heard horror stories about how the poor dogs are treated, and that they are still being raised to fight. some owners try to make their dogs mean because it makes them feel macho. that's animal abuse, and they should be ashamed. the american pit bull terrier is a loving, loyal, smart animal and makes a great pet if raised properly. they do have a genetic tendency toward aggressivness toward other dogs and small animals, so they must be well trained, well socialized, and require a good bit of time and effort. they love people and are great companions and loyal, protective, family pets. please don't believe the horse manure that's put out by people who are afraid of them. at least keep an open mind.

Answer by cassie
Submitted on 2/27/2007
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ok for the most part alot of you the coloring is right etc...but blues arent just for showing you dumbasses....i show my light fawn pit and my blonde pit...the blonde is a bit bigger but the fawn is pretty small right now...but they both place and do wonderful in the show ring...so might i let you all know....pit bulls were originally bred as companion dogs and fighting dogs..they are a family dog...they have also been used in hunting and you can now show them under the herding category. blue and red nosed pitbulls is all through genetics and coloring... not whether you show one and use the other for fighting....and those of you who do use your pits for fighting...you are ruining a perfectly good dog.

Answer by mrramon
Submitted on 3/19/2007
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you guys dont know what your talking about the red nose has been around for a while.they have a red nose and have either red,red and white ,choclate choclate and white coats.their eyes are blue when there pups but change to a yellowish color when their older.the blue nose pits are the newer generation for pits .they origanated from the best pits in the world . two freinds spend a lot of time and money to breed this dog they used the best to end up with the best anywhere from colby red nose and so on.the blue nose is either blue, blue and whie, blue brendal, reverse brendal, tri color ,white, black, black and white. both the red nose and the blue nose are very smart and beutiful animals .

Answer by Jezzabel
Submitted on 4/11/2007
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Okay...I have read all of these answers and I think out of all of them I see only 3 that are legit answers. I have to lat Lil Jont and Ayeo4yayo...you two have got the lamest most ghetto answers to this question. Blues are NOT uncommon and anyone that tell you that they are some special dog...they are NOT. Blues have been around for quite some time. They are just the new trend. First it was reds, then brindle, then whites, now blues. This too shall pass. All Pit bulls have been used and bred for fighting. Now to you "Well Technically...it's the way you raise them BLAH BLAH" people...I did not say they are all fighters...I said they have all meaning the different colors been bred for fighting. One type is not more of this or more of that. If you would like your individual questions answered go here http://www.ukcpitbull.com/pit/viewforum.php?f=5 They have good people on there that can answer any questions you might have and you won't get..."Who wants a dog with a blue nose" as an answer.

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Submitted on 5/16/2007
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Answer by pitbullbreeder
Submitted on 6/7/2007
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The difference between a red nose and a blue nose is plain and simple surprise no one has mentioned the real difference here. Red nose is are the original pits. Pit bulls with red nose hold the blood line of real pits. Blue nose is a result of later blood lines mixed here and there. And whether you want to believe it or not blue nose pits are the only known pits to be crossbred with rottweilers, hence the larger heads and body. Secondly you will clearly see rottweiler feature on some blue nose pits. Just stating facts. Other differences are blue nose tend to be bigger in body and mass on average compared to red nose. But rednose holds better head structure compared to blue nose. Although blue nose have bigger heads its usually no structure to it just big and gumpy like. Red nose are known to have big heads too but most are normal size and with great structure. As a breeder blue sells because of color. Yet Red is favored as far as looks. I've sold more blues to familys meaning Father, Mother, daughter, son...etc. A family pet. Blues are big pits and I mean huge, strong, and more calm. And as for Reds I've sold a great number to hardcore pitbull lovers. If anyone here doesn't know Sabor, and Dragon Ace of Ace then you haven't seen the beauty of real red nose blood lines. Personal opinion both beautiful pits. Summarized answer red nose are still hold a purer blood line for pits and are smaller on average. Blue nose are mixed bred pits, black nose with black, black with red resulting in blue nose, also cross bred with bigger dogs, and blue nose are bigger in size on average.

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Question by Malik
Submitted on 5/17/2004
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What are the differences between Red nose pitbulls and blue nose pitbulls. How did the two different terms and/or strains come about what is the history behind blue nose pitbulls

Answer by lil jont
Submitted on 6/7/2004
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a difference between a red nose and a blue is that a red nose is breed for fighting and a blue nose is breed for breeding and making money because of there color red nose are for breeding to but breed together is the better then all of them they have a chocolate color and might have a red or blue nose.

Answer by badman
Submitted on 6/23/2004
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people that breed for fighting dont like dogs that are breed for color color doesnt make a difference the breed for aggression strenght and agility

Answer by ayo4yeyo
Submitted on 6/26/2004
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red nose pits is a much better breed then blue nose because for one looks i mean who wants a dog with a blue nose red nose is the way to go...

Answer by mellie
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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A RED NOSED DOG IS GENERALLY A RESULT OF THE COLOR OF THE DOG, AS WELL AS THE COLOR OF THE DOG'S EYES. RED EYES, LIGHT COLORED COAT, RED NOSE. A BLUE NOSE PIT IS A UNCOMMON. A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A GREY PIT. THE GREY PITBULLS ARE THE ONLY DOGS WITH A BLUE-ISH GREY NOSE.

Answer by flander
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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you guys are all stupid schmucks

Answer by sally
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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A red nose pitt is from the red nose bread .Red noses are earthier fawn, tan, chocolate , or red . Their eyes are green or yellow . Where the blue/black nose have earthier brown or hazel and very rarely blue eyes .There coats can be many different colors from white to brindle's. This is a way I try to tell the difference when I look at the two.

Answer by Kamie
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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there really is no diffrence excpt for the color of the nose.some puppies are born with blue noses and some with red.but they are all the same breed.

Answer by banananutcreamer69
Submitted on 7/21/2004
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blue pits are really show dogs and are breed to look good and be huge. while red nose pits are an all around dog that can be used for hog hunting, fighting, and etc.

Answer by rj
Submitted on 8/9/2004
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i don't think any of you know what your talking about...you should all get a little education before giving your answers on thing

Answer by You are all stupid
Submitted on 8/11/2004
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Blue pits are not bread for show and Red pits are not neccesarily bred for fighting or game. Like all dogs you may have a blue that is a very game dog and you may have a red that is tall, skinny, and not the dimension of your typical "fighting" dog. All pits are generally of the same "generically" aggressive, protective, muscular, square-jawwed makeup. Bottom line...Pits come in all shapes,sizes,and tempermants.

Answer by mike
Submitted on 8/17/2004
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a red nose pit bull has a red nose and a bluenose pit bull has a bluenose i cant believe u did not now that dumass.

Answer by cant take the pain, keep it on the chain
Submitted on 8/24/2004
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u guys are idiots, its not the nose of the dog that makes them classify as a "red" nose or "blue" nose, its the color of the dog itself. any pitbull is good to fight it doesnt go by the nose. get your priorities straight, i have 2 blue nosed pits and a red nose and there all the same dog.

Answer by rabbitt
Submitted on 8/24/2004
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red nose is the original pittbull color blue is a result of disease in there skin. which makes the blue . they are pretty but only from sickness that comes from heredity. thats why u cant really breed for that color.

Answer by Big Whiteboy
Submitted on 8/26/2004
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All of the above are wrong. Blue pits are for Crip gang members and Red pits are for Blood gang members. It's that simple.

Answer by PitBullMaster2009
Submitted on 8/29/2004
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Some of you people have no clue what the hell your talking about. Rednose and blues are ALL THE SAME DOG just different colors, one does not have more aggression that the other, one does not make a better pet and all around dog than the other. They are both AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS. And thats that.

Answer by ReD hUsTlAh
Submitted on 8/30/2004
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BLUE NOSE PITBULLS HAVE A SHORTER temper and are more aggresive.but pitbuls are not for huntin they are guard dogs and good fighters.

Answer by yes
Submitted on 9/2/2004
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i agree there all smucks..

Answer by XwAcKz
Submitted on 9/2/2004
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Is it true that a Red nose pitbull is more dangerous as to kill then a Blue nose pitbull? Is there a difference in their jaws/ to attack with?

Answer by Blusenoseowner
Submitted on 9/5/2004
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No.... Blue and reds are the same dog... neither are better at fighting and fighting is INHUMANE why would you risk your dogs life for the sake of personal gain? Now to the point of blues being bred for color... some breeders dont breed for size it its class dependant if your showing your dogs you might breed for looks over size and same goes if your using the dog for working ie; competion pulling etc... same dog different color (blue being less common) and fighting is wrong

Answer by beffyboy
Submitted on 9/10/2004
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red nosed pits are a redish color and a blue nosed pit an of blue to black color

Answer by youngblu
Submitted on 9/13/2004
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who ever said that red nose pits were breed to fight an blue were breed for breeding is a lie.Red nose an blue nose pits were breed for there colors thats it.

Answer by shortie
Submitted on 9/19/2004
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the difference between the red nose and the blue nose is only the color. the most important thing you look for is what do you love in a pitbull big head, wide chest, short legs otherwise no matter the color there the same breed the answer is which color looks better to you. me i'vseen the badest looking blue pit and i'vseen the badest looking red nose so if you know your pits blood line then just pick a color blue, red, or chocklate........

Answer by d-block gangsta
Submitted on 9/23/2004
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it's all about the family tree of your pitbull thats what determins what color your dogs will be haveing. say you have a red nose but it's not from a red nose dad say a blue nose bred with a red nose and had red nose dogs. you would still have the blood of a blue nose pit in those red noses and when the breed when they get big they will most likely have some blue nose dogs cause its in their blood.

Answer by badboy
Submitted on 9/24/2004
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i think some of ya are just fools my blue pit maximus is 104 lbs and eats red noses for lunch and not to mention hes a showstopper also.all the ladies love em .

Answer by Stu
Submitted on 9/25/2004
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You're idiots. Red nose pits are not bred specifically for fighting. It's that kind of crap that makes it so hard to protect the breed. Don't be so ignorant and learn some grammar.

Answer by birdman
Submitted on 9/27/2004
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I like blue pits better there heads are huge red nose have little heads

Answer by pit man
Submitted on 9/27/2004
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i think a red nose pit is more to be mean where a blue is just a mistake i hate a dog with a blue or black nose unless the dog is white or black ya dig .

Answer by Brad
Submitted on 9/27/2004
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Looks like it's time to put some more chlorine into the gene pool again!! Why don't you all go to the library and try this new thing called "READING"!!! It's ironic how much knowledge there is on the net, but people are still so quick to show their ignorance. Please do some research before sharing your "knowledge" and please, oh please, don't reproduce!

Answer by Dave
Submitted on 9/27/2004
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I would like the recipe for that red nose bread please.

Answer by Bella's Girl
Submitted on 9/28/2004
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Rednose Pitties are just as beautiful as any other color of Pittie. One color has nothing to do with good fighting (GOD FORBID). They are a color. My Bella has a red nose, red eyes, pink ears, pink tummy. She'd be a Pit Bull whether she had a red nose, a blue nose, a polka dotted nose...get the point?

Answer by The Pit Master
Submitted on 10/5/2004
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Are 6 year olds answering this question or what?! Red nose are not for fighting you dumba--!...and neither are blues for that matter. A pitbull is a pitbull regardless of color. Best examples are Labrador Retrievers.....They come in yellow, black, or chocolate. They are all great hunting dogs and the color makes "ZERO" difference. It is all personal preference and variety to determine what color floats your boat. Color does not predetermine aggression, size, or anything else! Consider the question answered.

Answer by Jason
Submitted on 10/6/2004
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Definitly schmuks

Answer by hoghunter
Submitted on 10/6/2004
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the difference's between the red nose and blue nose is the reds are a more muscular defined pit more in the head than anywhere, they are a usually meaner dog,and are a smaller dog with a red nose and any color but the gray/blue color. the blue nose pits are generally a lager dog with a huge head and not as muscular defined as the red, they are a nicer pit in the attitude category,they are usually the gray/blue color with blue or green eyes with the occasional white blue nose.

Answer by someguy
Submitted on 10/6/2004
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u guyz r all stupid. Rednose pitbulls r way tougher. Rednose pitbulls r da best.