Top Document: [sci.astro] Galaxies (Astronomy Frequently Asked Questions) (8/9) Previous Document: H.03 What is the Hubble constant? What is the best value? Next Document: H.05 When people speak of galaxies X billion light years away, does this mean they are that far away now or were that See reader questions & answers on this topic! - Help others by sharing your knowledge Galaxy distances must be measured by a complicated series of inferences known as the distance ladder. We can measure the distances to the nearest stars by parallax, that is by the apparent motion of the star in the sky as a result of the Earth's motion round the Sun. This technique is limited by the angular resolution that can be obtained. The satellite Hipparcos will provide the best measurements, giving the parallax for around 100,000 stars. At present parallax can be used accurately to determine the distances of stars within a few tens of parsecs from the Sun. [ 1 parsec = 3.26 lt yrs.] Statistical methods applied to clusters of stars can be used to extend the technique further, as can `dynamical parallax' in which the distances of binary stars can be estimated from their orbital parameters and luminosities. In this way, or by other methods, the distance to the nearest `open clusters' of stars can be estimated; these can be used to determine a main sequence (unevolved Hertzsprung-Russell diagram) which can be fitted to other more distant open clusters, taking the distance ladder out to around 7 kpc. Distances to `globular clusters', which are much more compact clusters of older stars, can also have their distances determined in this way if account is taken of their different chemical composition; fitting to the H-R diagram of these associations can allow distance estimates out to 100 kpc. All of these techniques can be checked against one another and their consistency verified. The importance of this determination of distance within our own galaxy is that it allows us to calibrate the distance indicators that are used to estimate distances outside it. The most commonly used primary distance indicators are two types of periodic variable stars (Cepheids and RR Lyrae stars) and two types of exploding stars (novae and supernovae). Cepheids show a correlation between their period of variability and their mean luminosity (the colour of the star also plays a part) so that if the period and magnitude are known the distance can in principle be calculated. Cepheids can be observed with ground-based telescopes out to about 5 Mpc and with the Hubble space telescope to at least 15 Mpc. RR Lyrae stars are variables with a well-determined magnitude; they are too faint to be useful at large distances, but they allow an independent measurement of the distance to galaxies within 100 kpc, such as the Magellanic Clouds, for comparison with Cepheids. Novae show a relationship between luminosity at maximum light and rate of magnitude decline, though not a very tight one; however, they are brighter than Cepheids, so this method may allow distance estimates for more distant objects. Finally, supernovae allow distance determination on large scales (since they are so bright), but the method requires some input from theory on how they should behave as they expand. The advantage of using supernovae is that the derived distances are independent of calibration from galactic measurements; the disadvantage is that the dependence of the supernova's behaviour on the type of star that formed it is not completely understood. The best primary distance indicators (generally Cepheids) can be used to calibrate mainly empirical secondary distance indicators; these include the properties of H II regions, planetary nebulae, and globular clusters in external galaxies and the Tully-Fisher relation between the width of the 21-cm line of neutral hydrogen and the absolute magnitude of a spiral galaxy. These can all be used in conjunction with type Ia supernovae to push the distance ladder out to the nearest large cluster of galaxies (Virgo, at around 15--20 Mpc) and beyond (the next major goal is the Coma cluster at around 5 times farther away). Other empirical estimators such as a galaxy size-luminosity relation or a constant luminosity for brightest cluster galaxies are of uncertain value. The goal in all of this is to get out beyond the motions of our local group of galaxies and determine distances for much more distant objects which can reasonably be assumed to be moving along with the expansion of the universe in the Big Bang cosmology. Since we know their velocities from their redshifts, this would allow us to determine Hubble's constant, currently the `holy grail' of observational cosmology; if this were known we would know the distances to _all_ distant galaxies directly from their recession velocity. Sadly different methods of this determination, using different steps along the distance ladder, give different results; this leads to a commonly adopted range for H of between 50 and 100 km/s/Mpc, with rival camps supporting different values. There are a number of ongoing attempts to reduce the complexity of the distance ladder and thus the uncertainty in H. One has been the recent (and continuing) use of the Hubble Space Telescope to measure Cepheid variables directly in the Virgo cluster, thereby eliminating several steps; this leads to a high (80--100) value of H, although with large uncertainty (which should hopefully be reduced as more results arrive). Other groups are working on eliminating the distance ladder, with its large uncertainty and empirical assumptions, altogether, and determining the distances to distant galaxies or clusters directly, for example using the Sunyaev-Zeldovich effect together with X-ray data on distant clusters or using the time delays in gravitational lenses. The early results tend to support lower values of H, around 50. User Contributions:Comment about this article, ask questions, or add new information about this topic:Top Document: [sci.astro] Galaxies (Astronomy Frequently Asked Questions) (8/9) Previous Document: H.03 What is the Hubble constant? What is the best value? 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with stars, then every direction you looked would eventually end on
the surface of a star, and the whole sky would be as bright as the
surface of the Sun.
Why would anyone assume this? Certainly, we have directions where we look that are dark because something that does not emit light (is not a star) is between us and the light. A close example is in our own solar system. When we look at the Sun (a star) during a solar eclipse the Moon blocks the light. When we look at the inner planets of our solar system (Mercury and Venus) as they pass between us and the Sun, do we not get the same effect, i.e. in the direction of the planet we see no light from the Sun? Those planets simply look like dark spots on the Sun.
Olbers' paradox seems to assume that only stars exist in the universe, but what about the planets? Aren't there more planets than stars, thus more obstructions to light than sources of light?
What may be more interesting is why can we see certain stars seemingly continuously. Are there no planets or other obstructions between them and us? Or is the twinkle in stars just caused by the movement of obstructions across the path of light between the stars and us? I was always told the twinkle defines a star while the steady light reflected by our planets defines a planet. Is that because the planets of our solar system don't have the obstructions between Earth and them to cause a twinkle effect?
9-14-2024 KP