Top Document: [rec.scouting.issues] Commonly asked questions (FAQ 2) Previous Document: Where does it say that the BSA feels that sex belongs in Next Document: I hear the US Government gives away valuable land and material See reader questions & answers on this topic! - Help others by sharing your knowledge Jan 31, 2001 that some do not consider sexually moral? The Scoutmaster Handbook states: Page 132, Chpter 11: "Scoutmasters should keep in mind that boys should learn about sex from their parents, guardians, or others empowered by their families to guide them. No Scoutmaster should undertake to teach Scouts, in any formalized manner, about sexual behavior. If a Scout comes to you with questions of a sexual nature, answer them as honestly as you can, and whereever appropriate, encourage him to share his concerns with his parents or guardian, spiritual leader, or a medical expert." This says to answer any questions of this type as "honesty as you can" and then, wherever appropriate, encourage the Scout to share his concerns with a parent or other appropriate person. In the Boy Scout Handbook at the bottom of page of 377 the Scout is encouraged to talk to Scout leaders (among others) on questions about growing up, about relationships or about sex. ---------------------------------------------------------------------Subject: What is the BSA position on girls in Scouting? Date: 16 Sept 1998 Q. What is the BSA position on girls in Scouting? A. The BSA is a coed organization with some single gender programs and some mixed gender programs. Coed programs include: Learning for Life (all school aged youth), Exploring (14-20), Sea Scouting (14-20), and Venture Scouting (14-20). Cub Scouting, Boy Scouting, and Varsity are for young men. Adult Leadership positions in all programs are open to both genders. From a BSA Position Statement issued 6/6/91: The Boy Scouts of America is chartered by Congress "...to promote... the ability of boys to do things for themselves and others, to train them in Scoutcraft, and to teach them patriotism, courage, self-reliance, and kindred virtues..." The Girl Scouts, U.S.A., operates under a similar Congressional charter for the benefit of girls. The Cub Scout and Boy Scout programs were designed to meet the emotional, psychological, physical and other needs of boys between the ages of 8 and 14. Boys in this age range seek out and enjoy group activities with other boys. The Cub Scout and Boy Scout programs were carefully developed with these considerations in mind. The Exploring program, however, is designed to provide a variety of programs for both boys and girls between the ages of 14 and 21. Approximately 40% of the nation's more than one million Explorers are female. There are no plans to restructure Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting to allow for the registration of girls. JSsd 6/6/91 Doyle, Kevin Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:38:12 -1000 xxx was able to recall enough of the discussion where he heard about the possibility of a BSA task force of co-ed Cub Scouting (thanks, xxx) for me to go back to the source (a Philmont Training Center discussion group Q&A) and get the scoop. I spoke with Rick Williamson, director of BSA's Cub Scouting division and here's what I learned: There is no task force or committee currently looking into, or studying, co-ed Cub Scouting. The National Cub Scout Committee does have, as part of its long-range plan, a plan to establish a task force in 2002 to look at Cub Scouting and the family to see if we are meeting their needs. This may involve changing our program to better accommodate family needs. One of the recommendations may or may not be that we need to be co-educational to better meet the needs of the family. There could be a lot of other changes or no changes recommended at all. Whether or not that is even an issue will be determined by the Family Needs Task Force in the year 2002. As most of you are aware, the National Cub Scout Committee regularly uses task forces to look at all aspects of the Cub Scouting program to see if Cub Scouting is meeting current needs. These have included task forces on uniforming, advancement, CS Trainer wood badge, camping, etc. The task force on family needs will provide a welcome assessment of how we are doing in this area and recommendations for doing better. Kevin Doyle Aloha Council ---------------------------------------------------------------------Subject: What is the position of the BSA as related to God and religion? Date: 8 Feb 2002 The BSA owns two organizations: Learning for Life/Exploring and the BSA traditional Scouting programs. Learning for Life/Exploring holds all of the vocational training programs within the BSA effective August 1, 1998 (e.g., Law Explorer Posts) as well as its program for school aged youth. There are no youth requirements in Learning for Life/Exploring (LFL) pertaining to God and religion. Leadership criteria in LFL/Exploring is set by the chartering organization. Learning for Life/Exploring participants are not required to adhere to BSA membership requirements. For more information on Exploring, see: http://www.learning-for-life.org/ The following policy is for members of the BSA, that is the participants of programs within the BSA Scouting organization: Cubs, Scouts, Sea Scouts, Varsity & Venturing. A Press Release in Feb of 2002 the BSA Executive Board stated: “In affirming its existing standards of leadership, the board also=20 agreed that duty to God is not a mere ideal for those choosing to associate with the Boy Scouts of America; it is an obligation, which has defined good character throughout the BSA's 92-year history.“ -BSA Board Affirms Traditional Leadership Standards http://www.scouting.org/media/press/020206/index.html Note that the BSA does not define what constitutes belief in God, but does define what Duty to God is. From the Bedrock of Scouting Values Speech "The bedrock of Scouting's values is literally and figuratively ... duty to God .... "On my honor, I will do my duty to God and my country ..." To Scouting, the question is NOT: Can a person be honorable without a belief in God? Rather, our commitment is that no child can develop to his/her fullest potential without a spiritual element. The Boy Scouts of America is not a religion ... it is an organization with strong religious tenets. It is a movement that is committed to developing the entire child ... spirituality is very important in that total development. That is why we hold to duty to God. Whether it is the Judeo-Christian ethic; or a Buddhist, Protestant, Mormon, Catholic, or Native American ethic; or that of any of the other great religions of our world, the Boy Scouts of America is committed to the proposition that no child can develop to his/her fullest potential without a spiritual element in his/her life. In looking ahead to their adult years, Scouting is in accord = with the teachings of the world's great religions and is committed to the concept that sexual intimacy is the providence of a man and a woman within the bonds of marriage. Also, consistent with the world's great religions, the Boy = Scouts of America is committed to respecting the dignity of individuals or values with which we disagree. In four places in the Scout Oath and Law .... when you read the descriptive terms ... you will find comments related to respect. But, respect doesn't mean abdication of one's values. Nor does it mean the forced inclusion of others' values in your life. What it does mean is the recognition of the right of people to have opinions, values, and lifestyles other than yours and for all to be tolerant of each other's differences. When the Boy Scouts won the United States Supreme Court case, you didn't see us "celebrating in the street." The issue was not to vanquish a young man who is an inappropriate leader within Scouting. The issue was the maintenance of our constitutional right and our commitment to providing those faith-based values to our constituency in a respectful manner. Scouting has never sought to impose its values on anyone. We = welcome all who share them, and we respect the right of others to walk a different path. We don't expect everybody to agree with our standards and values ... but we do think it's fair to expect others to respect them." http://www.scouting.org/excomm/values/bedrock.html From the BSA National Executive Board, June 12, 1991: Reaffirmation of the Position of the Boy Scouts of America on Duty to God. Be it resolved that the following reaffirmation of the position of = the Boy Scouts of America relating to the duty to God be, and hereby is, enacted that the bylaws, rules and regulations, and literature of = the Corporation reflect this reaffirmation accordingly. In 1985, America celebrated the seventy-fifth anniversary of the Boy Scouts of America. Since 1910, eighty million Americans have subscribed to the Scout Oath and the Scout Law, which have stood the test of time. The National Executive Board of the BSA proudly states, through its mission statement, that the values which the organization strives to instill in young people are those based upon the Scout Oath and the Scout Law. A Scout pledges: "On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law...." The first Boy Scouts of America *Handbook for Boys*, published in August 1911, declares that "..no boy can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God." (page 215) The latest edition of the Boy Scout Handbook, published in 1990, reads: "A scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others." (page 561) While not intending to define what constitutes belief in God, the Boy Scouts of America is proud to reaffirm the Scout Oath and its declaration of duty to God. The following statements are additional information on the BSA position: The Boy Scouts of America has always been committed to the moral, ethical, and spiritual development of our youth. Scouting is not a religion, but duty to God is a basic tenet of the Scout Oath and Law. Scouting does not seek to impose its beliefs upon others who do not share them. Virtually every religion is represented in Scouting, and the BSA does not define or interpret God. That is the role of the Scout's family and religious advisors. Scouting respects those who do not share its beliefs and it would not ask others to alter their faith in any fashion in order to become Scouts. They too are free to follow their own beliefs. Rather, the BSA membership believes that the principles set forth in the Scout Oath and Law are central to the BSA goal of teaching the values of self-reliance, courage, integrity, and consideration to others. Scouting may not be for everyone, but for eight decades, Scouting has provided meaningful programs and adventure to more than eighty million young people in the United States. [end of letter] For more information on BSA organization's leadership requirements see: The Cub Scout Leader Book and The Troop Committee Guidebook The BSA organization teaches Scouts that the First Amendment religious liberty principles are our national "ground rules" for living with our deepest differences. Scouts are taught the "3Rs" of religious liberty -- rights, responsibilities, and respect. What it means to recognize that everyone has the inalienable right of religious liberty. Why is it important that citizens take responsibility for guarding that right for all others, even those with whom they disagree. And how we can learn to debate our differences with civility and respect. The BSA organization is a member of the World Organization of the Scouting Movement (WOSM). The BSA holds to the fundamental principles of the movement. Duty to God is a Fundamental Principle of the WOSM (see below for more on the WOSM). The WOSM has testified at = court cases in the United States in support of the BSA (see Walsh vs. BSA). The Learning for Life/Exploring subsidiary does not have any restriction in this area for youth, or adult leaders. Leadership criteria in = LFL/Exploring is set by the chartering organization. Youth are considered participants and not members. A history of the BSA on this point can be found at: http://www.umcscouting.org/reverant/HISTORICAL_PERSPECTIVE_REVERENCE.htm Recent press releases from the BSA on this subject can be found here: http://www.scouting.org There are a number of organizations who take issue with the BSA policy. Some information on their positions can be found at: http://www.infidels.org/~nap/index.bsa.html There are a number of organizations who agree with the BSA policy. Some information on their positions can be found at: The Claremont Institute http://www.claremont.org/1_naturallaw.cfm The War on the Boy Scouts http://www.capitalresearch.org:80/trends/ot-1298.html Concerned Women for America http://www.cwfa.org:80/ National Review http://www.nationalreview.com:80 ---------------------------------------------------------------------Subject: What is the Declaration of Religious Principles (DRP)? Date: 31 Oct 2002 The BSA owns two organizations: Learning for Life/Exploring and the traditional BSA Scouting programs. The following policy pertains only to leaders in the BSA Scouting programs (not Learning for Life/Exploring), that is the leaders within the BSA Scouting organization: Cubs, Scouts, Sea Scouts, Varsity & Venturing. The Declaration of Religious Principles (DRP) is a term used to describe the BSA policies and definitions surrounding religion. It is a definite position on religious principles. The DRP was first published in the original Boy Scout Handbook in 1911 and written by John Alexander (see the chapter on Chivalry). The following excerpt of the DRP is taken from the Adult Application: The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God and, therefore, recognizes the religious element in the training of the member, but is absolutely nonsectarian in its attitude toward that religious training. The Boy Scouts of America's policy is that home and the organization or group with which the member is connected shall give definite attention to religious life. Only persons willing to subscribe to this Declaration of Religious Principles and to the Bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America shall be entitled to certificates of leadership. When an adult leader signs the adult leader application they declare that they subscribe to the DRP. The DRP is printed prominently on the top of the instruction page in the adult leader application and is also on the youth applications. The full DRP can be found in the BSA Advancement Policies and Procedures Committee Guide and the Cub Scout Leader Book. The DRP section of the bylaws date back to the founding days of the BSA and was printed in the 1911 Boy Scout Handbook. Youth members of the organization are not asked to understand or subscribe to the DRP. Parents are advised on the Youth application that the leadership is restricted to qualified adults who subscribe to the Declaration of Religious Principle, the Scout Oath and the Scout Law. The BSA recognizes the importance of religious faith and duty: it leaves religious instruction to the member's religious leaders and family. Members who do not belong to a unit's religious chartered organization shall not be required to participate in its religious activities. Note the following while reading the DRP: The DRP does not require nor forbid a belief in a Supreme Being. The DRP does not talk about being a 1st class or 2nd class citizen, it talks about the quality of citizenship a member can obtain. The BSA does not define what constitutes belief in God or the practice of religion.* The BSA does not require membership in a religious organization or association for enrollment in the movement but does prefer, and strongly encourages, membership and participation in the religious programs and activities of a church, synagogue, or other religious association.* The BSA respects the convictions of those who exercise their constitutional freedom to practice religion as individuals without formal membership in organized religious organizations. Scouting believes in the right of all to worship God in their own way.* Throughout life Scouts are associated with people of different faiths. Scouts believe in religious freedom, respecting others whose religion may differ from theirs.* (* indicates this is taken from further notes on the DRP in the BSA Advancement Policies and Procedures Committee = Guide) User Contributions:Top Document: [rec.scouting.issues] Commonly asked questions (FAQ 2) Previous Document: Where does it say that the BSA feels that sex belongs in Next Document: I hear the US Government gives away valuable land and material Single Page [ Usenet FAQs | Web FAQs | Documents | RFC Index ] Send corrections/additions to the FAQ Maintainer: bnelson45@hotmail.com (Bill Nelson)
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